PAC or AUG healer

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Hagaar the Horrible
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Postby Hagaar the Horrible » Feb 15, 2017 19:56

I am about to hit 40 with my healer and I am trying to decide on a spec. I started as AUG and everyone seemed to ask if I was PAC. At 20 I re-specced to PAC and now all I get are tells asking if I am AUG. Which spec should is wanted more for RVR?

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Postby Ilerget » Feb 15, 2017 20:43

Both. Choose the one you liked more
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Postby smallgreenguy » Feb 16, 2017 01:58

33/18/38! : ) Fill in for whichever spec your group is missing!

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Postby Sadra » Feb 16, 2017 02:13

smallgreenguy wrote:33/18/38! : ) Fill in for whichever spec your group is missing!


For pve, sure, but rvr you will end up playing the pac roll, because peeps want those resists.

What do you desire more? Your melee to worship (and yell at) you for celerity, or everyone appreciate pom/ get mad at you for not getting mez off first?
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Postby Trainwrex » Feb 16, 2017 02:45

Both run in RvR and PvE groups so pick which one you liked the most and go with it. I'm Pac and wont change to aug because i like making people stop moving and die.

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Postby trolololsaurus » Feb 16, 2017 09:28

There are several options but none of them are cookie cutters. All based on your needs and your team setup

The spec can go like these
38 Pac for instant stun/44 for red AoE mezz
18 Aug for Celerity/ 20 to reach haste buff
30 Mend is base line for first SPREAD HEAL, 31 for a nice spec heal. 32 for 75% instant heal.

Pure Aug healers have good resist buffs and Pure Pac healers have good red mezz. Most Healers I have met at 50 are Tri-Spec, mostly for utility and versatility.

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Postby Embrute » Feb 16, 2017 17:15

Go tri-spec if u cant decide.
30 mending with first spread heal
26 aug for blue celerity
37 psv for yellow pom and first insta ae mez.

U gonna miss insta ae stun, but it works well

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Postby Rendiviel » Feb 16, 2017 18:51

Embrute wrote:Go tri-spec if u cant decide.
30 mending with first spread heal
26 aug for blue celerity
37 psv for yellow pom and first insta ae mez.

U gonna miss insta ae stun, but it works well

AE stun is ****** against Det classes anyways, so you aren't missing much.

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Postby Ilerget » Feb 16, 2017 21:10

Embrute wrote:Go tri-spec if u cant decide.
30 mending with first spread heal
26 aug for blue celerity
37 psv for yellow pom and first insta ae mez.

U gonna miss insta ae stun, but it works well

You can't make this spec, 30 mend / 37 pac leaves you only enough points for 25 aug
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Postby Kienn » Feb 17, 2017 02:02

Ilerget wrote:
Embrute wrote:Go tri-spec if u cant decide.
30 mending with first spread heal
26 aug for blue celerity
37 psv for yellow pom and first insta ae mez.

U gonna miss insta ae stun, but it works well

You can't make this spec, 30 mend / 37 pac leaves you only enough points for 25 aug


Also, first instant AE stun is at 38... Making the spec even more impossible.

As for OP...

The answer is to make 2 Healers.

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Postby angerinc » Feb 17, 2017 06:08

Best spec for healer rvr

25 Mend - Both insta heals, better group heal, better single target
18 Aug - Celerity and haste = 34%
44 Pac - red aoe mezz = less resists

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Postby newguy » Feb 17, 2017 07:29

best spec

32 rejuv - You NEED that spread, and also gives you big insta

20 aug - just need first celerity, blue cel is a mere fraction better and not worth at all, check the numbers

38 pac - gets you all the spells inc aoe stun

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Postby Amuse » Feb 17, 2017 10:03

Dont listen to the ppl advocating tri-spec. Its fine for PvE, but for RvR you will be lacking.

Aug: If you want to be an aug healer, you NEED atleast 37 aug. Its not about the celerity, its the resists. 37 is yellow energy (Mez and Hib PBAOE) resist. If you arent 37 aug, you arent an aug healer.

Mend: 30, 32, 35 or 39 are your stopping points.
30 - First Spreadheal. You want spreadheal. At the moment, single target heals are slightly bugged and cost more power than they should, spreadheal does not. Its your highest hp/power ratio heal, so cost effective even if it seems to cost allot.
32 - 75% Single target instant
35 - 75% group isntant
39 - blue spreadheal. Even more power efficient if used well, assuming there are 2 or more targets taking damage.

As an aug healer, your main job will be keeping celerity up and keeping the group alive, while your pac healer(s) controll the enemy group and act as backup healing. 39 mend, 37 aug is in my opinion the best spec for you.

Any group wanting an aug healer, will want that healer to have 37 aug for resists.
This is ofc assuming 8 mans. For small groups, tri-spec is perfectly viable.

Pac: Im less experienced with pac, but common specs include 36, 38, 44 or 47 pac, most commonly 36 or 38 for instant mez and stun.

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Postby trolololsaurus » Feb 17, 2017 10:07

Amuse wrote:Pac: Im less experienced with pac, but common specs include 36, 38, 44 or 47 pac, most commonly 36 or 38 for instant mez and stun.


Most people stop at either 38 or 44.
I've never met anyone that went beyond 44 (althought 45 gives you a red PoM) because you cannot touch 30 med once you cross the 44 mark in PAC.

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Postby Freudinio » Feb 17, 2017 15:47

Hagaar the Horrible wrote:I am about to hit 40 with my healer and I am trying to decide on a spec. I started as AUG and everyone seemed to ask if I was PAC. At 20 I re-specced to PAC and now all I get are tells asking if I am AUG. Which spec should is wanted more for RVR?


I can't fully answer your question, but I can give you some pointers:

If you plan to exclusively 8man in a 3 healer setup, I would suggest Tri Spec (38 Pac / 33 Mend / 19 Aug) - This gives you insta aoe stun, yellow pom, green celerity. Alternatively, you can go Aug as well (prefer 2x Tri spec healer / 1 aug for this setup, milage may vary)

If you plan to exclusively RvR in a 2 healer setup, go whichever spec the other guy isn't (you run one aug, one pac).

If you plan to primarely smallscale, zergsurf, then I would, again suggest the Tri Spec mentioned above, as utility is king.

Good luck and have fun! :)
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