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Postby jecs110 » Mar 31, 2015 02:08

will new races be implemented? (shar, h-ogre, frostalf)
It be nice to have more race diversity or would coding it in be a pain?

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Postby Vlalkor » Mar 31, 2015 02:47

jecs110 wrote:will new races be implemented? (shar, h-ogre, frostalf)
It be nice to have more race diversity or would coding it in be a pain?



Si races will be implemented. However nothing past that, so no shar, h-ogre of frostalf.

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Postby newguy » Mar 31, 2015 07:33

im sure this is an easy one, but what are the bg levels going to be?

I know in uth 1.0 it was 20-35 was the first one and then increments of 4 lvls...thnx

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Postby Thalien » Mar 31, 2015 07:47

Will viper and wild arcane affect weapon dots? I heard rumors that it does and in nf ras it doesn't and i don't think it should.
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Postby Trishin » Mar 31, 2015 08:37

Thalien wrote:Will viper and wild arcane affect weapon dots? I heard rumors that it does and in nf ras it doesn't and i don't think it should.


In new RAs viper affects weapon dots and wild arcane doesn't exist with new RAs.

Do you mean weapon procs that are DOTs?
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Postby Thalien » Mar 31, 2015 09:06

Trishin wrote:
Thalien wrote:Will viper and wild arcane affect weapon dots? I heard rumors that it does and in nf ras it doesn't and i don't think it should.


In new RAs viper affects weapon dots and wild arcane doesn't exist with new RAs.

Do you mean weapon procs that are DOTs?

yes
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Postby Infinitum » Mar 31, 2015 11:07

newguy wrote:im sure this is an easy one, but what are the bg levels going to be?

I know in uth 1.0 it was 20-35 was the first one and then increments of 4 lvls...thnx


The battlegrounds will be as followed: *edited through Trishin's post on next page*

Abermenai - Levels 15-19 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L2
Thidranki - Levels 20-24 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L3
Murdaigean - Levels 25-29 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L5
Caledonia - Levels 30-35 - Highest allowed realmrank: 1L9

And also a custom zone:

Kaldrheim - Levels 36-42 - Highest allowed realmrank: 2L9

This is in accordance to patch 1.65 (Abermenai was added 1.60)
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Postby jeZe » Mar 31, 2015 11:26

svperstar wrote:I apologize if this was already said on the forum, but I was told "ask in IRC" or something similar, Blato gave me an answer but he is not uthgard staff.

Could we get a brief explanation of how See Hidden will work on the server when it goes live. Even if you do not have range values a general outline?

Thanks.



From what i read on freddyshouse etc the detection range of see hidden assassin vs comp. 50 stealth archer will be around 800 units (one source: http://kaber.bladekeep.com/stealth.htm ..there are several more). The only formula i ever found was (take highest value of the two):

See Hidden range = 2700 - 36*(modified stealth level)

Detect Hidden range = 250 + 50*(50 - modified stealth level)

source: http://www.marcphilipeschmidt.de/daoc/quivna.htm

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Postby KatinaZ » Mar 31, 2015 11:53

Infinitum wrote:
Quik wrote:Will bow classes be equal with bows? On classic Albs had the slowest but hardest hitting...rangers were in the middle and hunters had the fastest but lightest hitting.

How will Uth 2.0 do this? Will it be like classic or will all realms have access to similar speed bows?



This relates back to questions such as Det for Hybrids. Bow classes will be as they were at 1.65 - Uthgard has the tests and data documented from this time and will go forth with this.


Slowest bow on Uthgard was Basalt Bow of Oblivion DF drop. One bow 3 realms, 3 diferent atack speeds. Midgard got Slowest One.

GM told me once, bow got diferent speed, becouse so was on live server. Till now i cant understand why mid got best bow ingame. Bow dmg was on all 3 realms the same... So hunter with slowest bow hited harder then Scout. And that was NOT like on live server.

So here is my question:

With SI, im sure, we will get new bows to. Same bows for all realms with differend bow speed again?

I hope all bow classes will get same max bow atackspeed!
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Postby Infinitum » Mar 31, 2015 12:00

KatinaZ wrote:
Infinitum wrote:
Quik wrote:Will bow classes be equal with bows? On classic Albs had the slowest but hardest hitting...rangers were in the middle and hunters had the fastest but lightest hitting.

How will Uth 2.0 do this? Will it be like classic or will all realms have access to similar speed bows?



This relates back to questions such as Det for Hybrids. Bow classes will be as they were at 1.65 - Uthgard has the tests and data documented from this time and will go forth with this.


Slowest bow on Uthgard was Basalt Bow of Oblivion DF drop. One bow 3 realms, 3 diferent atack speeds. Midgard got Slowest One.

GM told me once, bow got diferent speed, becouse so was on life server. Till now i cant understand why mid got best bow ingame. Bow dmg was on all 3 realms the same... So hunter with slowest bow hited harder then Scout. And that was NOT like on life server.

So here is my question:

With SI, im sure, we will get new bows to. Same bows for all realms with differend bow speed again?

I hope all bow classes will get same max bow atackspeed!


Hi Katinaz,

The bows will be implemented as were seen at 1.65. You are correct with information you stated that was seen on Uthgard previously; however, we will see bow damage/speed corrected as they were on live in 2003 :) .
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Postby svperstar » Mar 31, 2015 13:35

jeZe wrote:
svperstar wrote:I apologize if this was already said on the forum, but I was told "ask in IRC" or something similar, Blato gave me an answer but he is not uthgard staff.

Could we get a brief explanation of how See Hidden will work on the server when it goes live. Even if you do not have range values a general outline?

Thanks.



From what i read on freddyshouse etc the detection range of see hidden assassin vs comp. 50 stealth archer will be around 800 units (one source: http://kaber.bladekeep.com/stealth.htm ..there are several more). The only formula i ever found was (take highest value of the two):

See Hidden range = 2700 - 36*(modified stealth level)

Detect Hidden range = 250 + 50*(50 - modified stealth level)

source: http://www.marcphilipeschmidt.de/daoc/quivna.htm


While I appreciate the reply you are not official Uthgard staff :) Your research is same as mine tho.
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Postby Jarqo » Mar 31, 2015 13:36

Midgard never got the slowest bows, these got Albion which was 5.7speed if i recall correctly, but on uth was little diferent like(mid 5.3s, alb 5.7 and hib also 5.7s but later 5.5s ?)
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Postby KatinaZ » Mar 31, 2015 13:51

Infinitum, thx 4 info.

Trishin, can u tell us pls, Infinitum word, promises and information is something worth? Im not sure about that, he is not GM :roll:

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Postby KatinaZ » Mar 31, 2015 14:34

Jarqo wrote:Midgard never got the slowest bows, these got Albion which was 5.7speed if i recall correctly, but on uth was little diferent like(mid 5.3s, alb 5.7 and hib also 5.7s but later 5.5s ?)


My Hunter and Scout got same DF bow. On mid he was with 5.5 speed and on alb 5.3 speed.

I have also tested both bow dmg. Hunters and Scout was rr6. They got same dex and same bow ability points, used same arrows for dmg testing. Hunter Deal always more dmg, no matter what shot i used. Tested on same target btw...

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Postby Razzer » Mar 31, 2015 14:53

Slower bows hit harder with same bowspec and dex - they are all on the same dmg table.

The DF bows - shouldn't it be:
Basalt Bow of Bedlam (Mid) - 5,3spd
Basalt Bow of Bedlam (Hib) - 5,4spd
Brimstone Longbow of Anarchy - 5,4spd

However, maxrange is 2200 for longbows, 2100 for recurve and 2000 for composite bows. (rising with elevation)
So, the difference is just 100 resp. 200 units with is not that far when considering melee range is 128 units.
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