Hello.

Let's say you are casting a 3 second spell and you want to know how much dex it takes to make a noticable difference on the casting time where would you find that info?

Also on buffs I think I read someplace that if ur capped composite you get bonus to ur buffs? Can someone verify this?

Thx-- really I looked on forum but just got more confused.

on live the breaking point for a 3s spell = 374 dex...

http://daoc-guide.4players.de/forums/sh ... -castspeed.

NO idea how it is on uthgard, and NO idea why there are such "breaking points" on live

there are no breaking points on uth

pweet wrote:there are no breaking points on uth

not livelike

http://daoc-research-wiki.wikispaces.co ... int+theory
thats the only link i know but idk if it works like that on uth

oh its actually the same link lol

Magicco wrote:

pweet wrote:there are no breaking points on uth

not livelike

breaking points were found way later than 1.69

Wtf are breakpoints?

Blue wrote:Wtf are breakpoints?

Result: (influence of dex on casting speed)
1) There are "breaking points" where your cast speed gets significantly faster.
2) Anything in between these breaking points gives very little or no return.
3) Maybe someone will, but i fail to see a pattern in these breaking points.
4) The breaking points seem to aply to all spells with the same cast time, but i have not and am not going to test it for all spells.

Maybe some sort of rounding/truncating calculation of the cast speeds on live.

The dex breaking points in the links above are not relevant on uthgard. Especially not with the 10% toa casting speed bonus.

Let me ask this another more specific and selfish way. I am a smite cleric and I want to know with 3 second cast time the effect of no spec buff, 7, 14, 20, or 30 spec buff on dex, and if i get a bonus if there is composite to level. I would ideally like to do this without wasting a spec.

Possible specs im considering:

12 rej 30 dex 43 smite

17 rej 14 enh 49 smite

23 rej 29 enh 39 smite

35 rej 21 enh 35 smite

21 rej 8 enh 49 smite.

Blue wrote:Wtf are breakpoints?

with this post, blue just admits that he never actually _played_ daoc (or even understood basic mechanics). results cna be seen on uthgard.

Without relevant and origin Breaking Points much specs especially AugDex doesn´t make sense or you can´t calculate it right if it´s worth or not.

Anyway I don´t believe that there are no breaking points. The Dex-Factor must have a influence in a progressive way at a special point in Uthgard too.

Or is at Uthgard f.e. 1 dex 0.03 castspeed? That wouldnt make sense, because then there would no Soft/Hardcaps for Dex/Str etc. too?

Blue wrote:Wtf are breakpoints?

The idea of breakpoints comes from games that uses int instead of floating numbers.
Because of the lack of accuracy it makes investments have no return value until next valid int comes.

Let's say you have a real cast time of 3.9 sec, because of int you have 3 sec cast time, increasing dex will do nothing for you until you get to 2.9 sec real cast time.

If however there is used more accurate numbers, then any increments in dex will have an effect, as you would be able to differentiate between 3.9000 sec cast time and 3.8995 sec cast time.

Only by looking at what is used in the code, can you answer this question, but personally I believe breakpoints are relics of the past.

shintari wrote:

Blue wrote:Wtf are breakpoints?

with this post, blue just admits that he never actually _played_ daoc (or even understood basic mechanics). results cna be seen on uthgard.

this just states that he did not play on live later than 2010, i dont see a valid point of u here. and this is not a basic mechanic which u find out automatically, maybe it was in code like that forever, actually noone knew it before one guy posted it in vn boards

pweet wrote:

shintari wrote:

Blue wrote:Wtf are breakpoints?

with this post, blue just admits that he never actually _played_ daoc (or even understood basic mechanics). results cna be seen on uthgard.

this just states that he did not play on live later than 2010, i dont see a valid point of u here. and this is not a basic mechanic which u find out automatically, maybe it was in code like that forever, actually noone knew it before one guy posted it in vn boards

ye, because knowledge becomes only valid once some idiot makes it public. duh everyone who invested abit more time in the old days and played / tested ra-specs in detail will have eventually found out that some levels of aug.dex are more helpfull than others. so yeah - this is quite basic.