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Postby filch » Feb 27, 2012 17:53

Hi all, new to Uthgard and liking it so far. I rolled up a Theurgist and was wondering on a specc, Is going earth for PBT better than Ice or Air?

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Chrissi
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Postby Chrissi » Feb 27, 2012 17:54

For xping i'd go for ice :)

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Postby filch » Feb 27, 2012 18:32

Chrissi wrote:For xping i'd go for ice :)

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Chrissi


Can I respec at 50 still or is Uthgard different? Also, do the ice pets stun/snare or do they just do damage?

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Postby Austerim » Feb 27, 2012 19:07

filch wrote:
Chrissi wrote:For xping i'd go for ice :)

Kind regards,

Chrissi


Can I respec at 50 still or is Uthgard different? Also, do the ice pets stun/snare or do they just do damage?
You get a single respec at 20 and 40 here. Only the Air pets stun, the Ice pets have a snare nuke though I believe.
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Hedra
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Postby Hedra » Feb 28, 2012 12:39

Ice is cool but the resist rate of pet spells is totally bugged (if I remember correctly it is 45% against yellow mobs). So quite frustrating when mobs should die with just 3 pets, but sometimes they don't lose half their hps with 4 or even 5 pets.

Also in xp groups they will pull purple mobs which ice pets NEVER hit (I mean really it must be 1% chance at most). I remember my low level earth pets were actually more useful than highest ice pets in that situation:D so you'll just be a haste/damage add bot...

Yet I leveled 1-40 with ice spec so it's possible of course but I'm not sure it's the most efficient spec on uthgard :p
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Netchel
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Postby Netchel » Feb 28, 2012 16:19

Hedra brings up a very valid argument. the resist rate on ice pets blows, particuarly vs high con mobs. an attacker that is rounddown(80%*yourlevel) has a pretty high resist rate. you can overcome this by casting more pets. but then you have countered the efficiency of ice.

The group argument only really becomes an issue post 40. because other than on weekends, groups dont happen on uthgard for sub 40s.

Id think full ice to 20 is still the most efficient, after that its probably split whether its best to get the 25 ice pets and then all earth, or just start dumping everything into earth right away. 4 pets on a target, ice or earth will kill it. sometimes you can get away with 3, but in general it seems to even out with resists and misses that you need about 4.

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Postby Xedie » Feb 29, 2012 03:33

Most effective way is to go ice spec till 40. You have an easy time if you go grinding spirit vulnerable mobs. It takes 2-3 pets for an yellow/orange con mob. Just make sure to not cast them both at one point. Cast the first then move a bit sidewards and cast another ... if you need three just move a bit again. :wink:

Some spots I rember for Ice theurg grinding:

~ lvl 13-16 wind mephits in plains
~ lvl 20-30 llynn barfog. (cythrauls ; wicked cythrauls ; bwgwls ; skeletons at the broken church). All spots have plenty mobs and they are spirit vulnerable.
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Postby Oswaldo » Feb 29, 2012 10:18

always thought ice pets dmg is cold ? :s
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Postby Xedie » Feb 29, 2012 21:12

Oswaldo wrote:always thought ice pets dmg is cold ? :s


It isnt. It's spirit :wink:
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Kayambe
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Postby Kayambe » Feb 29, 2012 21:45

imo i would go air till 40 just nuke low spirit mobs' '' same as for ice pets magic type'' kill 3 4 mobs then alt tab regen etc etc

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Postby Frows » Mar 05, 2012 04:49

go ice til 25 then throw everything into earth til 40 , at 40 you will need to decide your final spec , there's a few variations

48 E ( for last Earth Pet)
rest ice or air depends what you like

45 E red bt
rest ice or air

40 E (2nd best Earth pet/2nd best BT)
36 Air 2nd best nuke / best stun pet/ good mez

45 Air (best nuke / best pet /good mez)
26 E (decent earth pets for interupting and last bt)

So it depends on what you want to do in rvr/pve

Imo 40 E 36 Air is best and most versatile for rvr grps but I do love my 48 E pets

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Netchel
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Postby Netchel » Mar 08, 2012 20:22

40 earth 36 ice isnt bad either.
decent earth pets (60s duration+ fast run), best ice pets (snare nuke), tolerable ae root, and 50 composite ice for baseline nuke.

the combo of ice and earth pets is nice. on support it makes it very hard for enemies to clear pets if you mix pet types. and vs tanks, a few ice pets can keep the enemy train permasnared.

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Postby Frows » Mar 12, 2012 22:19

I would never go Ice because the Ice pets were capped at lvl 25 and don't nuke for much at all

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Postby Icharus » Mar 12, 2012 22:54

Frows wrote:I would never go Ice because the Ice pets were capped at lvl 25 and don't nuke for much at all



What about your previous comment then Frows?


Frows wrote:go ice til 25 then throw everything into earth til 40
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Postby Akip » Mar 14, 2012 14:04

he means only cold as you don't get any higher pet in ice than the lvl 25 one on uth
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