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Frontiers Teleporting Process

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Samy Myrmidon Posts: 148 Joined: May 12, 2005 00:00	by Samy » Nov 14, 2009 17:15 ... the problem is: We are at max 750 player in primetime, not even near 2.000 or any similar population, like in Salis for example. I don't think it is a good idea to use such a long port time additional to the way far too big RvR zone. Sorry to say this, but I really don't think this will make the Uthgard population rise, even not higher the RvR, especially because the RvR population is just good in primetime, in Agra for example we was happy if 1 or 2 enemy grps ran besides ours. Last edited by Samy on Nov 14, 2009 18:58, edited 1 time in total.

Thalien Phoenix Knight Posts: 1022 Joined: Apr 18, 2009 00:00 Location: Marburg	by Thalien » Nov 14, 2009 17:21 You wont wait full 8 mins most of the time, so its quite fast port time. Fabienne - Blademaster Junia - Bard Audrina - Ench ----- Zoe - Sorc Stella - Pala Devon - Scout

jrhadden Eagle Knight Posts: 938 Joined: Jun 02, 2005 00:00	by jrhadden » Nov 14, 2009 17:29 panachier wrote:why is the question... why do you need to wait before being able to go rvr? (other you get to much fun, and you have no time to go pie etc?) why do you need to switch the neklace? just having it in equipment should be enough, or even better to pay for porting... Cause it is a roleplaying game. Dont you feel the atmosphere? ACTUALLY NOT. I want to wisper some magic words before beeing teleported - that would make it perfect Greetz Nes Inactive

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	by nixian » Nov 14, 2009 18:13 Welcome to non fast-food-rvr get used to it boys, if you want insta rvr action - go play insta 50 servers Uthgard is classic , classic means having to wait for action and not just some insta port insta kill action ofc. porters have to be usable and balanced, but saying they should be somewhat insta.. no, you better get used to it I like zarkors suggestion of the horse routes though, would make it more viable at low peak hours

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » Nov 14, 2009 18:34 Samy wrote:... the problem is: We are at max 750 player in primetime, not even near 20.000 or any similar population, like in Salis for example. Live servers had a max population of 3.000 not 20.000. panachier wrote:why is the question... Read my post. Also I want to mention again that we target oldschool classic DAoC. Last edited by Blue on Nov 14, 2009 18:37, edited 1 time in total. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Maidrion Phoenix Knight Posts: 1359 Joined: Jun 10, 2006 00:00	by Maidrion » Nov 14, 2009 18:35 nixian wrote:Welcome to non fast-food-rvr get used to it boys, if you want insta rvr action - go play insta 50 servers Uthgard is classic , classic means having to wait for action and not just some insta port insta kill action ofc. porters have to be usable and balanced, but saying they should be somewhat insta.. no, you better get used to it I like zarkors suggestion of the horse routes though, would make it more viable at low peak hours You could get to Agramon/NF Emain in under 30seconds, which we played here for years and now all of a sudden uthgard is classic you have to wait 8-16minutes?

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » Nov 14, 2009 18:38 Maidrion wrote:You could get to Agramon/NF Emain in under 30seconds, which we played here for years and now all of a sudden uthgard is classic you have to wait 8-16minutes? This was only changed due to heavy whine in forums. The teleporters were NOT intended just a workaround. This is not another Instant50 shard. Last edited by Blue on Nov 14, 2009 18:45, edited 1 time in total. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Murak Warder Posts: 58 Joined: Aug 08, 2009 00:00	by Murak » Nov 14, 2009 18:42 Maidrion wrote: You could get to Agramon/NF Emain in under 30seconds, which we played here for years and now all of a sudden uthgard is classic you have to wait 8-16minutes? We have voted, OF have win, that's all. Thank you for real Dark Age of Camelot

Elvis Warder Posts: 23 Joined: Sep 24, 2009 00:00	by Elvis » Nov 14, 2009 19:10 nixian wrote:I like zarkors suggestion of the horse routes though, would make it more viable at low peak hours With some Patch during the old frontier phase, Mythic introduced Hasteners at porting Keeps and at each Keep in the frontier. This made it much faster to walk through your own frontier. When i went to rvr yesterday, i really missed those hasteners. I think the introduction of Hasteners at keeps would solve that problem better than Horse Routes. If players on those horses cannot be attacked, the whole old frontier system is useless and if they can be attacked, those routes will be camped 24/7... Porting times will have to be tested. But 8 minutes (most time you won't have to wait 8 minutes) really isn't that long. Get something to drink, go smoking, relax and talk to your mates.

Rent Eagle Knight Posts: 607 Joined: Aug 22, 2005 00:00	by Rent » Nov 14, 2009 19:30 Murak wrote: We have voted, OF have win, that's all. Thank you for real Dark Age of Camelot You voted maybe for portsystem, but the other people voted for zonechange and old RAs. Also with NF we could have the current portsystem, but why not? Because it doesn´t give any atmosphere at all when you wait 345 times for the same NPC ( magician helpers, cast animation and text of the portritual is missing) The idea with horseroutes would be wonderful for each of the homezones:) P.S.: 8mins or 16min ( if you missed the port) arent very much for 24/7 players (or maybe 4+ hours a day), but if you die 2-3 x and missed every port and have around 2h playtime at all. You used nearly the half of the time with porting and most of the other time with seacrhing a enemy( okay with primetime there shouldnt be a prob to find someone) <Riot Control> Albion Rentwin (28) Sorc, Relante (32) Necro, Gwinn (9) Cleric <Blood Feud> Hibernia - paused Rent (50) Druid, Rentina (50) Enchanter, Ofreal (20) BM

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » Nov 14, 2009 19:52 Elvis wrote:I think the introduction of Hasteners at keeps would solve that problem better than Horse Routes. If players on those horses cannot be attacked, the whole old frontier system is useless and if they can be attacked, those routes will be camped 24/7... Hasteners should be there. Must be a bug yesterday. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Nymeros Phoenix Knight Posts: 1426 Joined: Apr 12, 2009 00:00	by Nymeros » Nov 14, 2009 20:34 Maidrion wrote:You could get to Agramon/NF Emain in under 30seconds, which we played here for years and now all of a sudden uthgard is classic you have to wait 8-16minutes? QFT

elTakapiru Myrmidon Posts: 122 Joined: Feb 12, 2007 01:00	by elTakapiru » Nov 14, 2009 20:52 The waiting time is then long if u just happen to have afker in group that u have to wait another 8 min.

DarkRef Gryphon Knight Posts: 412 Joined: Jun 27, 2007 00:00	by DarkRef » Nov 14, 2009 20:54 elTakapiru wrote:The waiting time is then long if u just happen to have afker in group that u have to wait another 8 min. shifts eyes It's not even when you have an 'afker', just someone who wasnt watching the screen for a few seconds, and forgot to put their necklace on. Then its atleast another 9 minutes until the group is buffed and ready to go, another 5/10 mins until there is action, and it this will repeat for the group that dies.

Everwar Myrmidon Posts: 62 Joined: Mar 09, 2008 01:00	by Everwar » Nov 14, 2009 22:54 Blue wrote: Maidrion wrote:You could get to Agramon/NF Emain in under 30seconds, which we played here for years and now all of a sudden uthgard is classic you have to wait 8-16minutes? This was only changed due to heavy whine in forums. The teleporters were NOT intended just a workaround. This is not another Instant50 shard. Im with you Nayru, Uthgard has to be severe about classic rules and thats why teleporting must remain. But i started this topic with the hope the staff understand that a so long cooldown on porting process is not necessary. Current waiting time just will make 2-3 fg's alb/mid port at same time into emain, with the consecuent milegate zerg. Non counting boredom and afk/necklace miss stuff Ref just commented. Uthgard is the result of to understand and correct Mythic faults, but i dont see wrong or anti-classic to lower porting cooldown; a suitable fix Mythic did and which didnt disturb anyone.