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Grinor
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Postby Grinor » Apr 25, 2009 20:06

I was reading a post on the Albion forums and was wondering to myself what is the ideal group setup for a Hibernia 8man.

Please post with reasons :D

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Postby PNG » Apr 25, 2009 23:11

[1] Bard
[2] Druid
[3] Druid
[4] BM
[5] BM
[6] VW
[7] Eldritch
[8] Ench/Warden/Menta/Eldritch/Hero/BM/VW

The last spot depends on your playstyle, your enemies and the skill of the last player :p

If you have enough skilled players you can even try a caster-setup:

[1] Bard
[2] Druid
[3] Druid
[4] Manaeld/Lighteld
[5] Manaeld
[6] Enchanter
[7] Lightmenta
[8] Warden/Lightmenta/Blockhero/Enchanter
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Postby Zarkor » Apr 26, 2009 14:06

Planning to run a caster setup without a slammer isnt rly a good idea imo.

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Postby PNG » Apr 26, 2009 15:27

On the condition that your grp is able to kite with snare/disease even det5/charge-tanks won't have any chance to get into melee-range due to the fact that you either kite them as far that you will be able to cast again or your grp-assist with heat/cold-debuff will instantly kill all tanks following you.

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Postby Almar » Apr 26, 2009 19:08

Zarkor wrote:Planning to run a caster setup without a slammer isnt rly a good idea imo.


Aggreed usually a deftank 2h hybrid is main assist in a bomb turret.
But since blockrate is gimped and there are so few that skill enugh Mob you dont really have another choice, have you ?

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Postby Thalien » Jul 09, 2009 08:48

Hi,

i would run:

Bard
Druid
Druid
Bm
Bm (Champ could also fit)
Hero
Ench Mana ofc
Eld 48 Mana 24 light


You got 3 unstoppable tanks(charge/det) and a nice caster debuff combo and good utility.

The two Bm for steady rupt and pressure on enemy support. With additional rupt of Bard/Druid they can also assist targets down.

Hero for guarding support and Casters. Slam/snare enemy tanks. Depending on fight can assist BM/Caster.

Eld: With 24 light got 45% nearsight! So nearsighting/deseasing and debuff assist with ench. Ench for debuff and pet for additional rupt.

The caster should overextend enemy tanks behind druid and assist them down. Hero slam and assit on them.

Also nice to have 2 pbae for pet cleaning and situational fun :-)

Very strong setup setup if good played.
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Audrina - Ench
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Postby Lasastard » Jul 09, 2009 10:40

PNG wrote:[1] Bard
[2] Druid
[3] Druid
[4] BM
[5] BM
[6] VW
[7] Eldritch
[8] Ench/Warden/Menta/Eldritch/Hero/BM/VW

The last spot depends on your playstyle, your enemies and the skill of the last player :p


Don't really see the point for having a VW in there, if you got an eld for disease. Also, VW doesn't have stoicism or charge, thus making him a weak link in the assist train.

Change VW for a Hero with moblock, and take a heal warden for the last slot and you got yourself a very solid tank group. A BM would do too, but personally I found that a heal warden can be quite useful in tight situations.

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Postby Duke » Jul 09, 2009 10:53

[1] Bard
[2] Druid
[3] Druid
[4] Druid
[5] Mentalist
[6] Eldritch/Mentalist
[7] Eldritch
[8] Enchanter

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Postby Lasastard » Jul 09, 2009 11:14

Duke wrote:[1] Bard
[2] Druid
[3] Druid
[4] Druid
[5] Mentalist
[6] Eldritch/Mentalist
[7] Eldritch
[8] Enchanter


Unusual for Uthgard, but if you want to do a caster group, lose the redundant 3rd druid and replace it with a heal warden (fend, resis, twf) and replace the 2nd eldritch with a hero for slam, guard and barricade (hoping that guard will work soon...^^). Otherwise all you have is a lot of heal power, which is useless against focused assist and no way to deal with enemy tanks other than kiting (which may or may not work, depending on the situation). Think that would overall be a more well-rounded setup.

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Postby Funkling » Jul 09, 2009 11:28

Bard
Bard
Druid
Druid
Blademaster
Blademaster
Blademaster
Blademaster
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Postby Lasastard » Jul 09, 2009 13:10

Ok, not trying to flame now - but why is it that you guys keep posting setups with absolutely redundant classes? If you got one good bard, 2 good druids - you dont need a 2nd bard. That slot is much better filled with i.e. eld/warden/slam hero.

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Postby Funkling » Jul 09, 2009 13:38

Because on Uthgard bards can't play 2 songs at once. A group setup like that with split assist trains would own pretty much anything. Obviously you've never seen how much interrupting 2 good bards can do. Not to mention 2x demez, 2x sos, backup heals etc. A 2nd bard is far from "redundant".
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Postby Shav » Jul 09, 2009 13:40

They are clueless maybe and dont play hib? ~~

Tank setup:

Bard
Druid
Druid
eld light
hero defbot (slam and backsnare NOT GUARDBOT) [can be bm with shield too if he can play]
warden (with aog)
vw
bm

Caster setup:

Bard
Druid
Druid
hero defbot [or bm]
ench
eld light
menta light
social slot -> another caster or random tank for rupt

Hybrid setup:

Bard
Druid
Druid
eld
ench
hero defbot
bm
vw

Making guardbot (so high mob) is a bit pointless since block formula doesnt work correct.

I dont recommend champs. Bm and vw got much higher dmg and utility. Vws got awesome damage, but most ppl still dont want to accept it ^^

And heat assist all the time - forget debuffing cold even for light eld, takes too much mana.

Bm and vw is a good at, just remember to have bm with slam - helps a lot.

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Postby Funkling » Jul 09, 2009 13:46

Shav wrote:Bm and vw is a good at, just remember to have bm with slam - helps a lot.


Shieldmaster and a hybrid with no stoicism, awesome assist train :p

And you called me clueless ^_^
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Postby Thalien » Jul 09, 2009 13:50

Yes. Anything with 2 druids, a bard and 5 dps can do well.

But question is. What is ideal grp setup?

Imo vw is only worth in grp if youre running full tankgrp and take vw instead of eld for disease/rupt/petclear to have no soft targets.

In at bm would be better. Vw has no stoic and low hp.
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Junia - Bard
Audrina - Ench
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Stella - Pala
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