ForumStealthwars:How we could all have a better game here
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With first encounter on a PD5 ranger ill post some pics, to show you my 60-80 dmg on him. I have no viper so maybe the pd-rd rangers are my hardest enemy.
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U still don't get it do ya? |
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Frustrated yes, but no because assasins will lost viper or other things... You only cant understand that. |
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This game is so unfair :'( |
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I have other question if now bow damage will be fixed, all scouts, rangers and hunters will spec bow? will you prefer falcon eye than pd or ip? is interesting to know that.
And other question. How many damage should do with bow any ranger, scout or hunter. Some days ago zippity hited me with 280- 290 damage, lady 260- 280. How many damage want you do? 600? and with critshot 1000 or more? |
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Stop whining lol, bow dmg is bugged, it should be fixed. |
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If it bugged im agree with that, and this should be fixed. But i want know how many damage they should do with bow. |
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Well yea of course that should be tested properly, however I dont think live is the perfect place for that since the bow system got overhauled there. |
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you can still test it using armsman crossbow 
and afaik zip has tested it and its about 7% dmg they are missing at lvl 50 |
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XDDDD i thought that they mis 30-40% damage. I dont remember who was, but he said that with 3-4 hits he should kill his enemies and now he cant. 7% isn´t realy big difference.
I think that the reason of low number of hunters and scouts is other and not bow damage. 200 damage or 214 is similar damage. |
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I still didnt get a response from zip about his tests. So here it is again.
When you compared your tests to the classic test that was done in 2003 with that ranger vs druid. In your test with the armsman crossbow, you used a mp crossbow with a effective dps of 16.2. You also used the strongest arrow type/bolt type, which is +25% damage. In the Ranger vs Druid test done in 2003 by someone else, that you said you compared it too, to prove that they are using the same damage table. But in that test, he used a 99% qual bow with a 16.0 effective dps. He also stated he used the lightest arrows to do less damage, so he could get in more shots. So he was using the -15% damage arrows. Did you consider that or is a archers damage the same as the armsman, but only if he is using the -15% damage arrows, which makes the rangers damage like almost 40% lower then it should be. But that is just a quess. Im not totaly sure how you compared bow to melee anyway. Melee uses styles and archery doesnt. |
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You serious..? Thats like saying im gunna go deer hunting..but im not taking my rifle im taking a ****** boat paddle.. An "archer classes" sole purpose.. is bow.. you dont see many of them because bow is totally screwed. Did you even take a look at what lady shot me for on my lvl 49 ranger with no PD? 10.2 seconds for 993 damage crit shot and all.. 7% missing whoever came up with that should be slapped and buried alive try 150-200% you know what that 7% would add to my crit shot at 300 dmg? 21 dmg.. Why dont we just give the ranger ability to shoot themselves with arrows.. that way we can assist on ourselves while the enemy beats us to death. You know what 200% x 200.. is 400 dmg.. thats generated in 3.4 seconds..guess thats asking to much seeing a lone savage or viper 3 asn can level someone in under 5 seconds. But did I say nerf them? No. I just asked for bow to be fixed. Wish id known bow was so ****** id of never made a ranger.. They should put this as first priority above all else.. obviously its clearly broken.. I dunno how much more obvious someone has to make it. I dont feel like re rolling so im retired till its fixed. |
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On live-servers an opponent with leather armor got hit for about 400-450 a normal shot from bow, when the attacker had specced bow arround 35+.
An assasin has to avoid being shot or nuked at or he is supposed to use vanish, else he will likely die. Hard to swallow, but it always was like that. The ability to make quick kills though, repays a lot and shouldn't be underestimated. An Archer class being shot or nuked at will likely die either, so get over it. I don't get it, why some players in here now start to argue, that bow is fine. WHERE are the real archers in rvr? Seen many lately? Armies of bow unsing scouts and hunters anhilating everything in sight and occupying the top ranks in lwrp? No, pure archers are almost non-existant, bc bow sucks. And you come here and state the opposite despite those OBVIOUS facts. I would be ashamed of either my lacking mental capacities to understand that situation or of my purposely bias in this discussion, if i'd state things like that. Fresa. |
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simpy said, bow damage is wrong, i have a scout and i stopprd playing her cause she's just not worth playing atm, i was wayting for a bow damage fix, but if i read all these posts, seems someone told devs scouts should do same damage with their only weapon, as do arms with their crossbow... hmmm..; arms having plate, alot more hp, alot more mele damage... oh well... seems very logical...
no need to flame eachother, scouts are useless, only thing you can do is leach and hope they will leave you alone, i dunno abouth hob or mid bow classes, i don't xrealm, but it seems they are in the same boat.. it's just not realistic to give a class that has to rely on bow the same damage table as an arms that doest'n even need his xbow to be able to kill someone.. where is the logic in this aniway? |
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400- 450 damage wow. And crit shot? |
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