Why should zarkor not state his point of view?
I totally agree with him in his most recent posting.

The type or quality of the source regarding it's origins is one thing certainly to consider, but in the end it matters, what is being contributed to the discussion.
So why can't a non-stealther player contribute smart deliberations to a stealther thread?

Fresa.

vangonaj wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHA now rangers say that they add because they have bad armor, bad weapons, rr and what more?
Im sure that when bow damage will be fixed, and all what you want, you all will still do adding mode. Do you know who is Serenidade? He never added and he was rr4 too.

Van,

Why hahaha response? Children often post with "Hahahahaha". Id ask you not to respond further if you cant make a solid argument.

I dont remember saying anything about my RR, bad armor bad weapons all my stuff was the best I could get for myself and I still couldnt do much with it, its actually the current state the class is in which is very limited on its ability to do anything.. in rvr.

Im glad your friend Serenidade struggled to get to rr7.1 ive actually been shot by beastmaster with a crit shot who is rr7.7 he laid into me only 370ish damage..and im a lowbie out there with amongst the 50's that pathetic damage from a scout alone speaks volumes about why people started this topic and why its carried on for 9 pages, read before you post please.

This happend just.. 20 mins ago..

Paladins hit me more in 1 swing then a scout does in 3.2-3.4 seconds.. pretty cool eh?

If I wouldnt of got healed I would of died but think each one of those red lines is.. 3.2 seconds inbetween shots.. on a lvl 49 ranger with 1050hp

thanks to bring me down...the 352 were a crit-shot..just for info.
and the time were 3.4 sec between the shots.

Musikus wrote:thanks to bring me down...the 352 were a crit-shot..just for info.
and the time were 3.4 sec between the shots.

Fireants and beastmaster do about the same dmg as you do.. all of us archers are in the same situation. No one brought you down but I had to document some type of real time evidence.. if you want later ill come meet you and ill crit shot you so you can laugh at my 290ish damage lol..

No offense intended.. I lolz at all archers dmg. Sorry if you felt you were singled out.


Thats what a kobold savage can do in under 4 seconds..thats 1092 dmg..

50 scout did 993 dmg in 10.2 secs not counting the 4.0s crit shot of course.

Asi said earlier, plz refer your dmg to other stealthers dmg, a pala or savage has nothing to do with stealther's dmg. We assasins cant do more than 80 dmg on a pd4-5 archer no matter what. So how about that?

double post sorry

Runis wrote:(...)We assasins cant do more than 80 dmg on a pd4-5 archer no matter what. So how about that?

Thats wrong, i have PD4 and i get hit for over 100 all the time, mainhand alone - add to that critcal damage and damage add and lefthand and critical from lefthand and damage add from lefthand all the time by SBs and Infs.
Oh, and of course 120 Poisone every 3 seconds on top of that.

80 ... lol, i want some of the stuff you smoke.

No one can compare a archer to the assasin classes. Why, well here is why.

Evade 7
Envenom ( with viper3 120 dmg x 6 = 720 if not purged, but can be reapplyed lol )
Critical strike styles
Advanced Stealth , when no camo is up

And yes archers get some good things like there buffs, but they got to spec for them, but all you need is charged items to get high buffs. We can spec for range, but some of you think it being nerfed balances it lol, so cant really say that is a positive thing lol. I could go on, but most who are not for archers, will disagree to the ends of the earth.

Gerbald wrote:

Runis wrote:(...)We assasins cant do more than 80 dmg on a pd4-5 archer no matter what. So how about that?

Thats wrong, i have PD4 and i get hit for over 100 all the time, mainhand alone - add to that critcal damage and damage add and lefthand and critical from lefthand and damage add from lefthand all the time by SBs and Infs.
Oh, and of course 120 Poisone every 3 seconds on top of that.

80 ... lol, i want some of the stuff you smoke.

Ask Syuviel how many damage we do on him, and how many he resists.

And yes we have cs and do 5 pa in all combats, and yes our viper is realy hard we can kill legion alone (there are assasins that play without viper and with low cs). Omg if ranger is realy bad clas why all hib stealthers are rangers? Or what you think if you will spec your ranger on mele you will kill all in rr4?

/hug Vangonaj, whom i'm in love with!

Runis wrote:Asi said earlier, plz refer your dmg to other stealthers dmg, a pala or savage has nothing to do with stealther's dmg.

In that case...SB and inf with PA and CS chains are nearly instant deaths for me if I average out the times those asn's took to kill me from PA right out the gate im sure it wouldnt be higher then 5 seconds.

Where scouts..and hunters are at an average of 10-12 seconds.. including myself except ive never solo'd anyone in agra.

At many times when I do catch an assassin in a fight it would take more then 2 shots with someone assisting usually to bring them down..at an average of 6.8 secs usually dead by then.. and I did maybe 10% of the work.

Also with falcon's eye 4 augdex 2 my crits on natan, noir, comet(skald) were in the average of 290ish..3.4 secs for that..what a waste..

Going do defend runis ^^

so far as i know he Dont have a str/con Charge.

while alot of others do...

so while runis might be hitting for 80ish other SB with that charge will hit 100-120 damage even vs PD 4 ^^


thats if i read everything right lol

i saw a video in another threat.

in this video you can see an infi that take out champs+warden solo.

and the archerclass is not able to kill a caster with his bow.....

but archers are sooo Overpowert and viper3 is not to strong.

vangonaj wrote: Omg if ranger is realy bad clas why all hib stealthers are rangers?

well, you dont got the post at all, dont you?
the first topic theme was WHERE ARE SCOUTS AND HUNTERS....ALL know ranger can avoid the bugged ranging skill with a impressive melee ability, thats why noone asked where they are, until some frustrated SB´s started to whine about them.

so return to topic..and ask yourself why there are so less scouts and hunters..its simple..they cant avoid the bowskill.
Thats it.