Duel Wield 1h out damage 2h? WTH!?!

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Postby devilsfury » Apr 11, 2009 23:15

Today I was out in Agra and saw one in my group fighting a celt 1v1. He goes down fast and dies so I run over and jump in. Im a fully SC Troll warrior with 350-371 str buffed. Slam and then i do 2 hit back chain with a 2h 5.6 speed hammer. I land both. One for 245 and other for 270. Celt comes out of stun and turns and hits me for 250 and 110. Hes using 2 1h weapons. My question is how in the world can someone with 1h weapons do just as much damage as I do with 2h weap and i know i have WAY more strength? I honestly just dont get it. Needless to say i needed a healer and another add to kill this guy. Great on you btw! YOu hit like a truck! But i still cant see how a duel wield guy can out damage me when im using 2h. (im talking about just in single hits in general. my 2h hit for 245 and his 1h hit for 250) Its crazy! Am i missing something? Even it he has aug str 5 (which no one has) id still have way more str than a Celt would especially since he was solo. BTW neither of those shots he hit me with were crits!

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Postby Zippity » Apr 11, 2009 23:45

Are you attacking a blademaster or a ranger? Oh and was this "250" total damage or was it damage after resist? For example

You are hit for 350

as opposed to

You are hit for 250 (-100)

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Postby Demoreg » Apr 11, 2009 23:51

I bet he was fighting Zaraki... Blademaster.

he's tough :D
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Postby DarkRef » Apr 11, 2009 23:55

Some solo BMs go round with a Strcon charge, or strpot and strcon pot and they are likely to have the same str as you.

Also BM's have better styles than everyone else.

And hit faster.

Just wait till you get hit by me :) Then you will feel stronger.

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Postby Zippity » Apr 12, 2009 00:13

Yea i know. I was just asking if the 250 value he was referring to was the after resist value or before resist value.

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Postby panachier » Apr 12, 2009 09:32

you have a weapon 5.2, he must use 1 handed 4.0 , you have celerity , he is higher rank ( already 5L increase your damage and your AF) and i suppose he puted RA to increase damage. you add the fact that you fight with crush on a bm ( i don't know is damage type) that should explain a lot
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Postby poplik » Apr 12, 2009 11:23

there is too many variables involved, did you have haste? celerity? AF charge?
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Postby Demiurgo » Apr 12, 2009 15:03

With my thane (chain armor+capped resist) some time ago I was hit from a blunt bm firbolg for 280 dmg with main hand in its side combo. My armor is neutral vs crush and I guess that bm could have done 300+dmg mainhand with a pierce spec
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Postby CalvoHP » Apr 12, 2009 17:38

firbys have low dex, speccing pierce would gain 20% bonus against thane but lose about 200-300 points in WS, still need to do some testing for that

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Postby Demiurgo » Apr 12, 2009 20:26

he could take some aug dex^
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Postby devilsfury » Apr 13, 2009 03:44

I was fully buffed without clerity. I dont know if the 250 was before or after resist. all i know if after 3 rounds of him hitting me i was near death and got saved. Yes, alot of variables. It just seemed way too much damage to be putting out with 1h damage. Especially since i was fully buffed. I dont know....it was just a ton of damage and fast!

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Postby Ranius » Apr 13, 2009 09:09

Same goes for svg...just that svg hits even faster...

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Postby nerd » Apr 13, 2009 14:10

CalvoHP wrote:firbys have low dex, speccing pierce would gain 20% bonus against thane but lose about 200-300 points in WS, still need to do some testing for that


Pierce is 50/50 dex/str... celts got 120 base, firbs got 130 base... so pierce is actually better on firb than celt

thats why celts are gay

oh, and just before people say it... NO, having str/dex near to each other does NOT improve pierce dmg

just fyi

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Postby Zaraki » Apr 13, 2009 14:40

nerd wrote:
CalvoHP wrote:firbys have low dex, speccing pierce would gain 20% bonus against thane but lose about 200-300 points in WS, still need to do some testing for that


Pierce is 50/50 dex/str... celts got 120 base, firbs got 130 base... so pierce is actually better on firb than celt

thats why celts are gay

oh, and just before people say it... NO, having str/dex near to each other does NOT improve pierce dmg

just fyi



I think he meant compared to blunt/blades spec.
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