Any Sense? /meaning of RvR? X-realm teaming?

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nubrin
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Postby nubrin » Mar 02, 2009 18:00

Last week i was xping my rl mates infiltrator in agramon at the wolfe/dog spot in front of mmg...

-it lagged i stealthed
-i see nynvandane
-i see rotbart+shaman running to nynvandane
-rotbart mezzes nynvandane
-i PA rotbart (Double Parry; nevermind) , just to try to give nynvandane a chance?
could ve stayed in stealth so... maybe my mistake...(saw the mezz too late)
-rotbart kills me ... the shaman with rotbart dots and bolts nynvandane
-nynvandane (now free of CC) doesn't move (just turns in mouselook)
-rotbart+shaman turned and go...
-nynvandane rezzes me...

so i "spent" rps to rotbart and nynvandane? for having "good" intentions?

[some minutes later ... i was still near that spot ...same as nynvandane ...
-rotbart+shaman came again .. run exactly in the direction of nynvandane
-nynvandane sits down ... rotbart+shaman just passes.. ]

the second situation ... I don't mind.. but the first one ... i just thought .. WTF?!?

Well... is this the sense of RvR? ... soo this is allowed? nynvandane tried to tell me that it is ... can't belive ... to kill xpers that just want to act in sense of the RvR how its meant to be ... and letting level 50s alive?
Nynvandane said: " I guess they ve respect " ... ehmm .. NO .. shaman + RR10 skald? never..

Please don't tell me : " you musn't ve attacked... " i know ...guess next time i just won't ... but .. this is RvR?

Great...
this really sucks... sorry.. it's ridiculous and ... giving me a strange feeling...

im wondereing since /callgm didnt have any effect
if there are special rights for people who reached RR9? my other rl mate gotta bann for a very similar situation in BG...

it's a little sad, since Uthgard is the only shard where rulzed have/had a meaning... (yes its not a rule by itself ... but isn't it questionable ? or am i wrong?)
/ponder

the infi was level 37 btw...

what do you think about it ?
how would you feel ?

greetz

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Clarex
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Postby Clarex » Mar 02, 2009 18:13

The only thing i can say to this:
It give no rule witch say: YOU MUST ATTACK ALL ENEMYS!

So if they think they dont attack each other... then its their choice.

Its hard for you... right... And its not a rr5+ privileg... many lowrr's do/think the same.

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Postby Maidrion » Mar 02, 2009 18:38

Some people leave solo'ers/xp'ers alone but a duo leaving alone a lvl 50 sounds kinda weird. I didn't know zergbart had such noble ideals.

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Postby Raven » Mar 02, 2009 18:47

Can be explained in a number of ways.
1.Friendship over realms, it's not all hate and war you know...
2.Principles, duo's not attacking solo players because they think it's lame. (Though I doubt Rotbart has problems with that .. :D)
3.Explanation that I have missed but still put in the post.
4.RP farming (Highly unlikely.)
5.Not wanting to fight with green/blue con stealther add. (Yet again, I don't think ... :D)
6.Unexplainable reason why people don't attack eachother

Feel free to add..

I think you're just the victim of:
****** happens.

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Postby nubrin » Mar 02, 2009 19:49

my RL mate once ... in bg ... met 3 honourable zerkers with his VW...
they didnt attacked all at same time ... one after another ...
-they didnt talk in TS or any messenger
-they didnt even know each other
-they just knew .. 3vs1 is the end of any inc

later some albs came along ... those 3 zerkers and my rl mate really got surprised .. so 3 zerkers charged for those 3 albs and the VW casting on them too Oo ..

10mins later all 4 (3zerkers and VW were banned) for a week or so...

they just decided not to attack each other ... or just sometimes Oo and still got banned ...
^^
imo its actually exactly the same thing ... but well those zerkers had honour
and rotbart well i can't find a fitting word for this :-) ^^

imo both situation got nothing to do with RvR and its the same ... one situation punished .. the other not .. if u re really allowed to peace some players of your choice of the other realm ... i dont understund why they got banned :-)

please correct me if i'm wrong ...

if you dont communicate exterior/besides the game its just your choice and allowed?

/shrug


-----

ah just reminded this:

§2.5 You may not cooperate with other realms in RvR. The realms are meant to have war. However if it is indispensable to fight each others in an equal manner (3 players of different realms fighting each other), there is no problem. As soon as groups of different realms organize their RvR together, it becomes a rule violation.

okay nvm ...

greetz ;)

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Sonnenschein
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Postby Sonnenschein » Mar 02, 2009 22:51

From my point of view it's strange...

Keep in mind:
- Nyn is logged by many different ppl.
- Rotbart & Viva normally kill everything/add everything etc etc.

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Methusalem
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Postby Methusalem » Mar 02, 2009 22:56

how u could know that the shaman was viva ?

maybe they cant see nyn cause of lags or some other reasons ?

maybe the nubrin is just ****** on something, and imagine some stuff ?

and the best reason u told us self. rotbart and viva attack normally all they see, u told us, so there must be a great mistake if they didnt killed him too.

so, they doesnt breaks any rules in my opinion

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Postby niemand » Mar 03, 2009 02:32

If a fullgroup let solos and duos alive, u want that all player get a ban cause they dont attack each other oO?
[20:52] <[Xped]Cali> boah magico deine angekotzte art kannste dir in deinen scheiß arsch stecken
[20:52] <[Xped]Cali> dich kann man echt nur noch auf ignore haben sonst könnte man nur kotzen
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xexijreil
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Postby xexijreil » Mar 03, 2009 02:36

I think all he wants its same treat for all ppl, and not different treat from gms depending on who the person is, but for what i have experienced must say this is hard to get

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Postby Rakjsh » Mar 03, 2009 02:37

so from your point of view anyone should just attack everything that

moves with a red name above their head? should this be normal? nyv and

rot are old players they must have met so many times, cant they choose

to beattacked or what? after u paed him and rot didnt attack nyv he

should have fought him with no chance in 2vs1 instead of rezzing u? do u

think that in the example u reported the ban was something normal?

imo anyone play how he wants and can choose who to kill or not an nyv

reacted to evade a /rel and a new run till there so wthere is the prob

? good game

/stoned

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Postby vangonaj » Mar 03, 2009 04:34

Maidrion wrote:Some people leave solo'ers/xp'ers alone but a duo leaving alone a lvl 50 sounds kinda weird. I didn't know zergbart had such noble ideals.


Where are now noble hib ideals? :lol:

In rvr you can chose your victim. If all soloers or litle group wil strat attack all what they see, al of them will die.

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Postby niemand » Mar 03, 2009 06:35

You cant order a player wich one he should attack.
Not all hit with next target and think red=death.
Some player dont attack each other, with different reasons.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2921/sshot100.jpg

here we add in a 2mid vs 2hib, then we get pwned by 4 enemies, after our death they sit peaceful.
dont worry, thats daoc^^
[20:52] <[Xped]Cali> boah magico deine angekotzte art kannste dir in deinen scheiß arsch stecken
[20:52] <[Xped]Cali> dich kann man echt nur noch auf ignore haben sonst könnte man nur kotzen
[20:52] <magico^> magst du fäkalien spiele?

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Postby nubrin » Mar 04, 2009 05:17

Methusalem wrote:how u could know that the shaman was viva ?


i didnt tell that it was viva, but now when u say it , could be him, think i often saw them running around together...

Methusalem wrote:maybe they cant see nyn cause of lags or some other reasons ??


very creativ, what phantasie!
they couldn't see him, but me (stealthed) ?
before they couldn't see him they ran straight up to me (nynvane next to me) .. and stopped .. and mezzed nynvan ... but didnt see nynvan

.. so he had no target cause of not seeing, but mezzed? sounds very plausible ...

(if they really couldnt see nynvandane, my suggestions are even worse...)

and after killing me... viva(or the shaman) even attackt nynvan but then thought: " mhhh, noooo , i dont wanna attack anymore"

BUT: he couldn't see? YES he couldnt!!! /laugh

Methusalem wrote:maybe the nubrin is just ****** on something, and imagine some stuff ?


yes i was ******, thats why i wrote this,... and no, i dont imagine anything , wanna see pics? got some ... but well for what ?
and wouldnt you be ******? .. ah sorry i forgot you didnt read ;)

Methusalem wrote:and the best reason u told us self. rotbart and viva attack normally all they see, u told us, so there must be a great mistake if they didnt killed him too.
?


well then we re same opinion ;) there was a great mistake!

Methusalem wrote:so, they doesnt breaks any rules in my opinion


That's the point. It doesnt break any rule, so its legal so its senseless positing any pic, and this(my) threat became minor after my last comment...
but it was a great pleasure for me to answer such nice comments like yours , viva? :)

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Postby Rakjsh » Mar 04, 2009 06:14

nubrin wrote:
Methusalem wrote:maybe they cant see nyn cause of lags or some other reasons ??


very creativ, what phantasie!
they couldn't see him, but me (stealthed) ?
before they couldn't see him they ran straight up to me (nynvane next to me) .. and stopped .. and mezzed nynvan ... but didnt see nynvan

.. so he had no target cause of not seeing, but mezzed? sounds very plausible ...

(if they really couldnt see nynvandane, my suggestions are even worse...)

and after killing me... viva(or the shaman) even attackt nynvan but then thought: " mhhh, noooo , i dont wanna attack anymore"

BUT: he couldn't see? YES he couldnt!!! /laugh


omg stop this Opera and go back to play he said the other time that they left him alone when he sit maybe they didnt see him for stupid reasons even but still anyone kills who he want,if i m fighting and a realmmate add i stop and the enemy kills him i sit and rec with him to fight again if i feel to so stop this and go play
Q_Q

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Postby nubrin » Mar 04, 2009 06:19

vangonaj wrote:In rvr you can chose your victim. If all soloers or litle group wil strat attack all what they see, al of them will die.


ye they chose they victim .. it was nynvandane .. i attacked , i died , it was still nynvan , but then , out of nothing ,. they changed there plan and just turned around.

vangonaj wrote:If all soloers or litle group wil strat attack all what they see, al of them will die.


ehmm, YES , sometimes we kill, sometimes we die, thats the game.

Im not telling everyone has to kill anyone he meets/sees (or not sees@ methusalem)

niemand wrote:If a fullgroup let solos and duos alive, u want that all player get a ban cause they dont attack each other oO?

omg , how can u compare this....

if u want the FG vs Duo scenario, imagine:
Fg is attacking the Duo, 5stealther pop out of stealth attacking FG (of same realm of Duo)..
then
-FG kills all stealther
-FG attacks Duo
-FG stops attacking turns and leaves Duo alive...

and i would still wonder... how? what? why? wtf?

and i didnt want to get those 2 players banned, i wanted to read others opionions, maybe get some sympathy on my ******* happens*
and i wondered about those similar sitations discribed above, which arent so similar as i thought

nvm...

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