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Runis
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Postby Runis » Feb 10, 2009 13:45

dont take it so personally, its just a game

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Postby vangonaj » Feb 10, 2009 14:06

Runis wrote:dont take it so personally, its just a game


/clap

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Postby Yyrd » Feb 10, 2009 15:32

nes, i dont mean to flame, only meant to point out a unethical action that upset me.

it upset me cause i know you.
it upset me cause we used to play together.
not like i have much chance vrs 90% of the stealters i fight. ( ask around per is the easiest to kill stealther in arga atm.)
but, to send a mos5 hunter and a fg after me make me really upset,

flame was not my intent. more of a side effect.

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Postby panachier » Feb 10, 2009 15:51

hey i am stupid too , i have an infi and a scout and i think stealthing is boring and useless
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Postby nixian » Feb 10, 2009 16:40

panachier wrote:hey i am stupid too , i have an infi and a scout and i think stealthing is boring and useless


may i ask why the h... u lvled 2 stealthers to 50 then ? xD

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Postby panachier » Feb 10, 2009 17:49

cause it was fun in emain ;-) and it was fun before the nerfs of PA ... you could do other thing than melee, melee , melee and hope your target dies before you...

and at this time, there were nice stealthers around, it was fun... now there are only noobs zerg that need to be 3 or 4 to kill one solo. 2 years ago i could even try to kill 2 players alone and maybe some group of 3 or 4 with robine.

but now it s boring, useless gimp and out of topic :D
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Postby nixian » Feb 10, 2009 18:19

panachier wrote:cause it was fun in emain ;-) and it was fun before the nerfs of PA ... you could do other thing than melee, melee , melee and hope your target dies before you...

and at this time, there were nice stealthers around, it was fun... now there are only noobs zerg that need to be 3 or 4 to kill one solo. 2 years ago i could even try to kill 2 players alone and maybe some group of 3 or 4 with robine.

but now it s boring, useless gimp and out of topic :D


lol so because u cant rely on PA alone and easy weapon swapping for dots u quit stealthers ? xD

and not true only noobs out that zerg

im out.. 100% solo

so..

rerun your stealther pana and lets see your "skillz" ;)

and yes off topic xD

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Runis
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Postby Runis » Feb 10, 2009 19:09

@ nixian: pana was ganking with robine(mos scout) and archachin, when they left pana quit playing infi.

@pana: u think wrong, i mean it was fun to do those PA's and 1 hit casters, that brought a big smile on my face :)), but its fun too to see who can fight and style better in a long fight too, despite all lag strafers or whatever.

And yes, on uthgard pa is really nerfed, i recall 2hand critblades doing 2k dmg on live servers, on 3k or so hp players (cata items).
On uthgard you cant go full CS spec because its useless, 2hand bonus is not implemented, and you do with 2h almost same as dual wield dmg.

On uthgard CS line is not live-like pre 1.80, and its not the first time i say this, the bleeds from PA CHAIN should STACK and LEAPER should have an Attack Speed DEBUFF, and some more bleeds have the same effect, according to patch 1.77, and there are some more changes to bleeds /endu costs/ holy staff friar style. I keep saying this since i was a critblade 10023 years ago.

On uthgard PA has no

There are some more issues that are not fixed but i cant think right now, too tired.

Cheers.

Edit: my target from screenie was sitting :)
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Postby Zaraki » Feb 10, 2009 19:30

It's over NINETHOUSAAAAAAAAAND.
The world will look up and shout "Save us!"...and I'll whisper "NO U."

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tazok
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Postby tazok » Feb 10, 2009 19:44

pa is hard enough for me, i'm almost a one shot target for pa ing stealthers :?
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Postby panachier » Feb 10, 2009 21:22

@ runis i stoped to play infi after the bracer fix on alb, the map changement from emain to agramon ( without climbing walls, and to many roads) after PA nerf, and some guild mates left. ( robine stoped to play his scout before leaving uthgard, he was still on his theu)

but at this moment you had to run miles without porting if a tower was owned by enemy realm and so on... it was hell for stealthers... maybe now it s better but still boring and useless.

myabe PA was a bit to high , but not it s useless... only the stun helps, otherway you dont do much dammage on a PA than a normal style, so kiting stealthing and critical again etc doesnt work anymore.

i thought stealthers are strong on critical and are weak in melee, but on uthgard it seems to be the opposit. i don't know if it's livelike or what else... anyway i think it's not very important for the game play

one of the things that are not implemented on uthgard are the stealth abilities ( prepare critical without being destealth, and teleport front of enemy)

@nixian why would i play a char that doenst bring me any fun and has not any utility ( you group stealthers only if really nothing else around)
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Postby nixian » Feb 11, 2009 01:03

panachier wrote:@ runis i stoped to play infi after the bracer fix on alb, the map changement from emain to agramon ( without climbing walls, and to many roads) after PA nerf, and some guild mates left. ( robine stoped to play his scout before leaving uthgard, he was still on his theu)

but at this moment you had to run miles without porting if a tower was owned by enemy realm and so on... it was hell for stealthers... maybe now it s better but still boring and useless.

myabe PA was a bit to high , but not it s useless... only the stun helps, otherway you dont do much dammage on a PA than a normal style, so kiting stealthing and critical again etc doesnt work anymore.

i thought stealthers are strong on critical and are weak in melee, but on uthgard it seems to be the opposit. i don't know if it's livelike or what else... anyway i think it's not very important for the game play

one of the things that are not implemented on uthgard are the stealth abilities ( prepare critical without being destealth, and teleport front of enemy)

@nixian why would i play a char that doenst bring me any fun and has not any utility ( you group stealthers only if really nothing else around)



WOW u havent played ur inf in a long time

PA does help

500+ (on tanks)
and 750+ (on casters)

is a lot of dmg on uthgard

+ poisons helps a lot too

str/con debuff + disease + poison a heavy tank and they are pretty much like hitting a friar with no buffs ;)

and ofc. i understand u got upset about bracer change - however the PA change is not a reason to quit - that just proves you like it when its easy ;)

also theres other action than just grping people ;)

<---- 100% SOLO nightshade ;) it can be fun ;)

what I don't get is people rolling a hunter and then go MOS5 to join FGs chasing solo / duo stealthers ;)

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Postby vangonaj » Feb 11, 2009 02:45

I think that now steath action is very good in agramon, concentrate in milegtes and dont need run a lot for find combats. You can find soloers and little stealth groups.

And i dont think that all stealthers who play in agramon now are noobs. And PA, viper3 and vanish is easy mode or maybe coward mode^^. I dont know about infis in this server but in mele i can kill tanks with hight rr without PA and viper.

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Postby panachier » Feb 11, 2009 15:18

500+ with PA... and you do around 250 with a garrot+ dot... so PA is useless...

stealther on uthgard are just tanks but weaker... so i think it's better to roll a tank ;-)



what I don't get is people rolling a hunter and then go MOS5 to join FGs chasing solo / duo stealthers


maybe it's a logical reaction of a solo player that fedup with being ganked by groups of 2 ...3 ....7 stealthers that add on them fight and they think that's fun.


I dont know about infis in this server but in mele i can kill tanks with hight rr without PA and viper.



maybe there is a bug there ;-)
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Psiho
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Postby Psiho » Feb 11, 2009 19:12

Can blademasters get a useless 500 damage style pretty please ? :)

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