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Supafly
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Postby Supafly » Feb 07, 2009 13:13

that seems pretty fair to me.. (the NF stats)

i dun understand the logic behind this post.. are you trying to build uthgard and make it a bigger server? or are u trying to cut down the population by restricting rvr? yesterday was friday and usually most people only get time to play on the weekends..

so a 33/30/39 ratio seems to be pretty fair to me (this is no zerg).. why is it that people whine so much abt zerg anyway?! doesn't that just reflect that uthgard population is increasing? which should be a good thing according to many.. :?

Becuase as far as i'm aware many ppl complain that there is too little action in agra and that the staff shouldn't implement new bgs because it cuts down agra rvr.. now decide what you want first.. :idea:

i reckon this is quite a useless post and not the first.. because again this is an on going matter and no matter how many posts are put up.. THERE WILL STILL BE ZERG!! get over it..
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Postby obiwan » Feb 07, 2009 13:13

only because there are 30 ppl in nf it doenst mean zerg lol

maybe uth ppl should stop thinking that u have to do a big grp with all ppl in the area^^

that would really push rvr .. but thats the problem of uthgard since 4 oder 5 years ^^

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Postby Clarex » Feb 07, 2009 13:20

vangonaj wrote:
Metty wrote:Yesterdays NF stats ...
<Uthbot> msg: RvRStats: NF 102 (33/30/39)
(alb/mid/hib)


Hahaha. I think that not only mids do zerg. Who destroy rvr now? Who should stop rvr activities?

Tnx for information Metty, i hope that now albs and hibs will stop complain. And midgard was last kingdom that yesterdeay did zerg.



Lol Lol and Lol?
You know that 39 Hibs could also be an 16 slot grp. 2x 8 man groups and also some leveler.
In Midgard.. there are ALL of this counted players in this stupid zerg.
So thats why the most of us whine.

Now you can say if all player in agramon of one realm could be in this zerg, then its right.
But you forget the option to say: no thanks i hate zerg. and thats the most anwser of the intelligent Hibernian and Albion player.

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Postby jrhadden » Feb 07, 2009 13:24

Thanks Metty. Thats looks pretty Fair.^^

Besides Yrds. 1FG vs 2FG . 3 FG , 5 FG ... Death is Death. If u meet the 3 FG Abs or the 5 FG Mids.

Maybe instead of playing a stealther, join forces maybe ?

And dont talk about killing RvR. Zerg dies fast, so normal RvR starts pretty fast. Only FG kills RvR for soloer etc on the long run. Since their half-life time is much longer xD

Midzerg. Well a lot random people and a lot leveler. Alb Zerg = just exclusivly selected people. Strange isnt it ?

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vangonaj
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Postby vangonaj » Feb 07, 2009 13:57

Clarex wrote:
vangonaj wrote:
Metty wrote:Yesterdays NF stats ...
<Uthbot> msg: RvRStats: NF 102 (33/30/39)
(alb/mid/hib)


Hahaha. I think that not only mids do zerg. Who destroy rvr now? Who should stop rvr activities?

Tnx for information Metty, i hope that now albs and hibs will stop complain. And midgard was last kingdom that yesterdeay did zerg.



Lol Lol and Lol?
You know that 39 Hibs could also be an 16 slot grp. 2x 8 man groups and also some leveler.
In Midgard.. there are ALL of this counted players in this stupid zerg.
So thats why the most of us whine.

Now you can say if all player in agramon of one realm could be in this zerg, then its right.
But you forget the option to say: no thanks i hate zerg. and thats the most anwser of the intelligent Hibernian and Albion player.


I can say the same about mid group. Mid have big stealth action last weeks. 6-7 mid stealthers in argamon. 30-6=24 AAAAAAAAAAA mids did realy big zerg. And yesterday my group in mid zerg had 3 players. Is a big group for you?

I think that no one can say no to official information.

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Postby Elaeli » Feb 07, 2009 14:44

GJ metty, now the zerglings will point to your stats EVERY SINGLE TIME someone makes any argument. mind posting statitics for the other evenings, too? you know, the ones where the zerg rolled over everybody, and they all logged, except the stealthers? and don't forget to substract the ones sitting afk in DC plz, thx.


and vangonaj, we SO don't care how big YOUR group was, you still ran in a fricking zerg, and the reason 90%+ of alb and hib is ****** off is exactly that same zerg, that destroys rvr every single evening.
another thing: belive it or not, 39 hibs can run in single 1 fg's. (especially when half of them are levelers/stealthers..) we don't have to zerg, even with that many ppl in the same zone. yeah no, hard to believe, i know. maybe try the same?


i'm getting tired of mids trying to justify their OLOL WE PWNZORZ noskill stickzerg.

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Postby Blairo » Feb 07, 2009 14:54

mhh mi just agree to the one who said log out and let them have their fun with raiding...
and i dont know why ppl always open a new threat... these guys will never understand it that as soon as they roll over agramon rvr for all is over or they have to zerg back what most of player dont want to but are forced to.. they are just to blind to see what they are doin

-> im out^^

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Postby Havelock » Feb 07, 2009 17:07

perhaps it would help a BIT if one realm zergs and other realms
are underpowered, to spawn some guards that patrol and some guards at the keeps of the weaker realms, in relation to the zerg that attacks.

especially some npc guards at the keeps may help very well to defend a small group a keep to a zerg. By that way a weak realm may not strafe around but perhaps its possible to defend a keep with fun against the zerg, instead of logging. If theres a funny Keep-fight running, more Players may log IN instead of OUT and perhaps it MAY get fair for all.

patrolling guards may help less effective against zerg , but quite a bit i think it may help too. (soloers might have problems with it , so it may be not so good)

i think if the server refreshes sometimes the numers of players per realm(in the different rvr-areas), and Spawns NPCs to help the weaker Realms A BIT, i dont expect it would be a even fight, but perhaps less unfair and frustrating, for the non-zergers. (dont know if its Technical possible, i just think i may be)

YAH! i know its NOT livelike , but it might save fun on RVR even in Bgs same as Agramon.
It wont solve the problem too, but perhaps leave a much smaller problem.


I know ists frustrating to run into a zerg without even the chance to win.
But you wont solve this problem by pointing at the "evil" zergers.
if one Realm HAS 5 fg that want to fight, and another realm has NOT,
is the expectation that the "winning-team" will send half their peolpe home
senseless. (this will be unfair to the home-sended as well ^^)
And i also understand anybody that logs in a 5 vs.1 fight without a chance, but that both a ways that will never solve the problem , because they ARE the problem.

I really think if players wont be able to balance, NPC s may help.
may be a long way till it works, but perhaps staff may think about.

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Postby Psiho » Feb 07, 2009 17:21

Wally wrote:Psiho. I think it is not that easy. Every realm has a certain pool of players and not every realm can face the amount of players of another realm by any time of the day. Not every player behaves like you think or wish and will do the same like you in a certain situation.

I never said it was easy. Thing is, every realm has the numbers but lack the motivation/brains to create a "zerg". I'm well aware that numbers are hardly ever equal, but saying that only midgard zergs is a horrid exaggeration. Every time one realm eventually outnumbers and wins over the other, when the defeated ones should look for more instead they log off and make whinethreads like this one.

I've participated in hibernia outnumbering other realms by huge amounts basically streamrolling over 2-3 groups. However I never saw a mid player complain about it.

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Postby Yyrd » Feb 07, 2009 18:01

i play a stealther cause im mostly afraid to solo as not one.

people say rr10 dont matter cause it is skill. i disagree and fear these players.

being able to hide helps me a lot. im no hardcore professional player.

the 39 hib player and 30 mids is weird cause this is what i seen.

i was a ranger i was guarding the gate to prevent that group of 4 mid stealther getting in. with a eld helping me not far away.

during my guard duty. i seen many hibs come out. but never more then a 8 at a time. yet ive seen what looked like 3 fg albs zerging. and so many mids i could not dare to count.

now to give albs a little credit. i did see the albs break apart into 2 parts. and i adding on a nice 8man vrs 8man.

<well the mids was attacking these albs, who tried to race into the gate and the gate closed with 1 pali inside. so i told a animist to SHROOM up, and then run back. i opened the gate. then the mids ,who attacked the albs, killed them.>

so many mids.~!
i wanted to know how many.!

< i opened the gate 2nd gate> yes, it was me.
< they charged in and ganked me and the animist>
<ran at the guard camp>
< wiped the guards in seconds>

this is how i got the count of 39
i got 3 39's and rest was 31's


i think mids do these cause they want to win. winning is the factor. cause winning is funner then loosen. remember its only a game. is winning everything? then if the nerf aprees implemented, this will make the new player impossible to get any invites. then be like me and not dare solo in a world of rr10's. but traded for MORE rvr action. and less zerging. cuase im sure players care more about apres then anybody or anything.


last of all, the zerg kiled me once, ( i opened the gate). only thing i whine about is i had to log out cuase everybody QUIT PLAYING. i wanted to play rvr. and you ruined it for me bye super zerg.

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Postby Hornster » Feb 07, 2009 18:18

erm... those stats might say it was even

but you know... there are people out there... and those people dont like to zerg ...
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Postby tazok » Feb 07, 2009 18:34

I'm just glad rvr has increasing numbers, imo it's a luxury problem. I rather have zergs then the old 8 man group with always the same people cruising agra.
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Postby nixian » Feb 07, 2009 18:39

i just wonder WHEN those NF stats were?

cuz sure at some time hibs might have been more than mids / albs (like in the mornings)

however if NF stats say 30 mids and guard count says 39.. hmmmmm think?

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Postby massivmampfer » Feb 07, 2009 18:59

Clarex wrote:
vangonaj wrote:
Metty wrote:Yesterdays NF stats ...
<Uthbot> msg: RvRStats: NF 102 (33/30/39)
(alb/mid/hib)


Hahaha. I think that not only mids do zerg. Who destroy rvr now? Who should stop rvr activities?

Tnx for information Metty, i hope that now albs and hibs will stop complain. And midgard was last kingdom that yesterdeay did zerg.



Lol Lol and Lol?
You know that 39 Hibs could also be an 16 slot grp. 2x 8 man groups and also some leveler.
In Midgard.. there are ALL of this counted players in this stupid zerg.
So thats why the most of us whine.

Now you can say if all player in agramon of one realm could be in this zerg, then its right.
But you forget the option to say: no thanks i hate zerg. and thats the most anwser of the intelligent Hibernian and Albion player.


Organize a counter zerg and stop complaining. If logging out or QQ at zergers is called intelligence, then you are still not as intelligent as you might think you are.

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Postby Zappo » Feb 07, 2009 19:35

massiv you seem like you didnt get the POINT...
like all mids, saying "counter our zerg" -.-

did you all read any of posts above?

WE

DONT

LIKE

ZERGS !


plz get that...

-hib

edit: As long as we hate them, rvr will be dead it seems ;) (in the actual system)

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