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Yyrd
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Postby Yyrd » Feb 07, 2009 03:09

Got a message today. gaurd killed bye 39 players.

coufe, gasp, WOW.

sort of overkill? anybody else think so?

sure mids been zergy the last week or so, but common 5 fg 's. bare with my QQ here, just think..

vrs a 1 fg hibs?

or was it that 3fg albs ? albs got 3 lets bring 5. that will win~!

still WOW. realy killed the server on a friday.\


honest guys. your killing the fun. yes your all having the time of your life for a few moments with UNSTOPPABLE power , uberness and screaming "MID RULEZ "over /b. but your killing the day.

think of rvr like beer, its only good with moderation. if you take too much your end up crashed into a ditch.


this is not an attack on mids or any mid player. just my distorted view of the world.

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trissnorton
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Postby trissnorton » Feb 07, 2009 03:25

This is a big problem that shouldn't be ignored. Mids zerging is killing the rvr action in agra.

There should be a exponatially growing penalty on rp gained when zerging. 39 mids zergin an exp group should give almost no rps at all. 39 mids zerging into 39 albs shouldgive normal rps. (Small chance Alb would get a 39man zerg.)

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Postby panachier » Feb 07, 2009 04:04

39 enemies around can be a alb guard killed in a zerg hib versus zerg mid with around 20 players in each realms.

i suppose it was something like that more than 5 fg mid that enjoy taking keeps together. ( at least i hope)
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Postby vangonaj » Feb 07, 2009 04:13

If i remember good today albs started zerg. If albs start something that they cant play whay they do it? And in mid we cant say people you can join zerg and you go home. All people are wellcome.

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Postby Runis » Feb 07, 2009 04:13

You know what means 1 fg kill for 39 mids? hmmm... like 250 rps each? YAY. I guess its not about the rps, dont whine about that. Its about winning, wiinning df, winning bonuses.

Last days alb did a nice green cloak zerg that pwned everything. No mid qqed about it. Today was mid's day. QQ this qq that stop already. Every week one has to qq and open a topic about mids zerging. Mid will still zerg no matter how much u complain about it because this is daoc. You should open 1 thread per day and see that mids will still zerg.

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Postby Yyrd » Feb 07, 2009 04:14

yes pana, BUT i was stealther and watching them kill the gaurds. NO albs near. only lots and lots of mids.


runis : i wanna QQ about all your QQ of me QQing. ( that make sence?<takes a breath>
so, if you QQ once per day,about people QQ ing, they will keep QQing.
so why do you QQ about the QQing?

if i did not make sence ,i basicly said the same thing runis did, but in my perspective.
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Postby vangonaj » Feb 07, 2009 04:19

We had 2 or 3 battles vs albs. We lost first and second batle, when we won last battle albs left agramon. They ever do the same. If they lost 1 battle they ever left. And if midgard have 39 players in agramon and there arent enemies, we will take all towers for get bonus, df... and no go home.

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Postby Zippity » Feb 07, 2009 07:41

trissnorton wrote:This is a big problem that shouldn't be ignored. Mids zerging is killing the rvr action in agra.

There should be a exponatially growing penalty on rp gained when zerging. 39 mids zergin an exp group should give almost no rps at all. 39 mids zerging into 39 albs shouldgive normal rps. (Small chance Alb would get a 39man zerg.)


/claps /cheers

Someone who has read my proposals? =)


Anyway, as strange as this may sound runis and the original poster are right. My opinion is that it is nice to see realms with the ability to field large numbers of people out there in rvr. That's how the game was designed to be played and it is nice to see the uth population, for the time being, being capable of having rvr on this scale. I complement any side that has an interested population and organization to be able to get so many players out to do something as a common goal and objective. I think the other realms can learn a lot from midgard about coming together more often for various purposes.

On the flipside however I have the opinion that such one sided fights can ultimately be detrimental to the server through the shear demoralization factor involved when one is always fighting 2:1, 3:1, and in this case today, 5:1 odds. Such a situation is untenable for other realm players so I agree that some solution needs to be created. Hopefully we will see what/if any change that the staff will unveil in regard to new rvr mechanics. I hope they will be more ambitious and well thought by using hindsight than previous attempts (boggles at the ill conceived idea that lead to teleport spawn camping) in order to meet the current challenges facing the server.

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Postby Maw » Feb 07, 2009 10:04

just so simple guys.
if there's a zerg don't go there.
if a zerg gets no food it will die.

feeding it all time with easy rp's will let it stay or even grow.

so just stop your rvr-activities for about 1 hour and the zerg will be vanished.

so don't complain about it - stop feeding it!

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Psiho
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Postby Psiho » Feb 07, 2009 10:06

If only alb/hib realms had the mentality of mids, agramon rvr would be so much fun. Instead all they do is complain :/

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Postby Wally » Feb 07, 2009 10:26

Psiho. I think it is not that easy. Every realm has a certain pool of players and not every realm can face the amount of players of another realm by any time of the day. Not every player behaves like you think or wish and will do the same like you in a certain situation.

A zerg gets definetly less rps of a group because the amount of rps that a grp can give is fixed (except a small calculation in the grp bonus). The group which deals the most dmg gets of course the most rps. The groups with less dmg gets less rps.

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Postby Runis » Feb 07, 2009 11:48

Come on Wally we all know that the realms have same amount of population, it's not midgard's fault that they are PvE oriented or whatever.

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Postby Wally » Feb 07, 2009 11:54

I am wondering if you read what i write or just read what you want to read.

i don't even wrote anything about the total amount of players nor judged a whole realm.

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Postby TheKrokodil » Feb 07, 2009 12:32

Yesterdays NF stats ...
<Uthbot> msg: RvRStats: NF 102 (33/30/39)
(alb/mid/hib)
Be nice. :)

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Postby vangonaj » Feb 07, 2009 13:10

Metty wrote:Yesterdays NF stats ...
<Uthbot> msg: RvRStats: NF 102 (33/30/39)
(alb/mid/hib)


Hahaha. I think that not only mids do zerg. Who destroy rvr now? Who should stop rvr activities?

Tnx for information Metty, i hope that now albs and hibs will stop complain. And midgard was last kingdom that yesterdeay did zerg.

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