This needs to be thought over very good, because you need to take in consideration that someone (ex. me) leave town to some relatives for a month and wanna play daoc from other isp-ip and other pc. I think zip's ideea for a login from a standalone app its the best, like mythic has, but there you can choose different servers(realms), and so uth needs to have 'a special login to whole server, not only an account. I'm not into tehnical issues and dev and i cant help you how and the best way to do it.

Of course the application needs the user agreement and tell what the conditions are to play uthgard. On live you needed to swap servers for another realm, and uthgard pretends to be livelike ;P

Edit: @pana - people should play on a server like it was intented to play, maybe wont swap realm like when mids zerg lets log mid or viceversa, or whatever. You should be proud of a realm and play like you belong there.

@ blue: i will gladly pay 10 euros per month for a second account on uthgard

massivmampfer wrote:Account sharing is forbidden in many online games anyway. This step surely would raise the level of Uthgard.

Account sharing is not forbidden in most games, account selling/trading is.

And another thing, people seem to be saying things like "yay let's make it livelike so you cant play on multiple realms because on live you would have to pay multiple accounts"

That is not true, on live I could simply log to another server and play a different realm when I got bored of the one I am playing. Uthgard is only 1 server, and it's population is not livelike.

It not only about account shearing but also about whole RvR situation. Lets imagine we're in Agra as Hibs. Bard leaves and then noone can relog on a bard cause it's not possible? It'll be totaly pointless to wait for another person with a good bard on his/her account (especially if there are 2/3 active bards for whole realm...)

I agree with Cespx,

for changing the grp-setup in rvr it's the worst think ever

Runis said:....people should play on a server like it was intented to play, maybe wont swap realm like when mids zerg lets log mid ....

hm when mids zerg...lets log out

I'm against such a limitatio, too

why? because I think it would make rvr extremly hard, since - as already said - you cant log other chars in order to change the setup (even if you just change one char)

and that, I think, is not a good idea.

We just spoke about it, should not intented to not be able to log on the SAME REALM. If it will be an win app you could log FIRST the realm and then the accounts/whatever (because some of you have multi-acc).

This should be intented to make unable to log on other realm, RIGHT? Or maybe a delay of 24 hours or so between realm or whatever. Read the whole topic before posting something pls.

I bet all those that are and will be against this change are x-realmers.

Runis wrote:Read the whole topic before posting something pls.

Runis please read what blue wrote

Blue wrote:Whats in the task queue is that logging into other realm accounts will have some type of timed lock. Therefore all accounts someone owns have to be registered to one email address. Using of shared accounts will be forbidden then. Also logging into accounts registered by a second email address would be bannable.

That means that if I would want to login a friends account on the same realm I would have to change my IP.

Cespx, Dialia and Hornster you misunderstood what blue said I think.
All your accounts would be registered to one email adress, you can relog accounts registered to the same email adress as much as you want as long as they are in the same realm, the only question is if those accounts are yours.

thats the point zaraki - what if I want to/should log for example a paladin. I dont have one, but I have the acc datas to another one - but this account is not registered as 'my account'. looks like this would be illegal

you get what I mean?

Ah than you did understand, and your concernes are the same as mine.

Runis wrote:I bet all those that are and will be against this change are x-realmers.

Perhaps, and where is the problem with it?

a 1 hour or 2 hour timer should be enough, as pana stated, realm spying can be done on irc or teamspeak, it's more the problem of players logging other realm to farm a lvl grp he found or to log his stealther in the other realm to kill levelers in df i guess..

atm it's way too easy to change realm as soon as one thinks he can have advantage in some situations..

some say daoc is war... guess what happens to people fighting both sides irl, in daoc they can even fight 3 sides...

i aggree with zippity, it should be account connected, ip's are very easy to change, and on cable you can have multiple ip's on one connection (buffbot use?)

on the other hand, i would not restrict account swapping in same realm, a lot of guilds have crafters who where leveled by multiple players and are used as needed by guildies..

still not any answer to the WHY...

could smdy tell me what's the problem with Xrealming?just a reason please... ( not the usual "i got killed in a place where nobody can find me, that's certainly nestrel that told them"...)

yeah i am Xrealmer too, i have an animist that must be level 15 and a shaman 46.... i enjoy to play them sometimes... what's wrong with that?


monty:

some say daoc is war... guess what happens to people fighting both sides irl, in daoc they can even fight 3 sides...

but the ones that say that are stupid and certainly voted for Bush.

but let's say daoc is war... but a virtual one... so if it's bad to play on different realm, hang my chars as it would be done in a real war. I /rel and everybody is happy...[/quote]

You dont get it, its about not being able to play multi-realms on same server. This mythic inteded to do.

I got it! There is only one solution, Uthgard must split in 3 servers.

First Id like to say hi, Ive just joined and havent even had time to create my first char but Ill do that tonight

Anyway, this topic is much more important now when more livelike rvr is introduced. Why? becuse now you are able to take keeps and relics and spying becomes more useful when there is a relic raid going on...

So I have to agree to the suggestion with a timer that delays the possibility to log on to another realm. I do however think that 12h should be more then enough since the primary reason for such a timer must be spying.