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Postby Salidor » Dec 30, 2008 01:56

First off this isnt a whining post just lookin for some advice ^^
No Flameing plz.

Rangers Vs Viper3 Users O.o

I've noticed that with there Final attack before they die Most infs/Sb hit ya with one more Dot that does another 600+ damage to you. thats enough to drop most people after a heavy fight. -Its there Iwin button-.

I've gotten IP2 to help agenst that but want to know if
AoM works and or empty Mind works vs envom... And if it does. does it realy help that much?

I've also heard of a Charge Hot. that i could try using after a fight and if any one knows how much the hot heals ^^

atm i use a heal pot normaly after a fight that heals 60-240 Hps lol but sadly some times that not enough :+)

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Postby pantal00n » Dec 30, 2008 03:09

You could purge it.

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Postby massivmampfer » Dec 30, 2008 03:20

there are some bug HoT charges around you can use while you fight...so you can reg 364 hit points in 20 seconds unless you are diseased

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Postby Zippity » Dec 30, 2008 03:57

massivmampfer wrote:there are some bug HoT charges around you can use while you fight...so you can reg 364 hit points in 20 seconds unless you are diseased



/sighs deeply at the thought of this being used.

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Postby Salidor » Dec 30, 2008 04:21

aye i can purge it.
But a good 80% of my fights with the higher RR5+ peeps i normaly get stuned once. and i use it then, if i dont im good as dead ^^.

But there was a few Hots in live that had a 2-3 sec cast time that heals around 350 but im not sure where to look for it here if its here :+)

there where never any insta hots i could find but there was hot charges and hot procs for armour/shield but that was post 1.80, post 1.80 for the shield/armour procs that is

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Postby CalvoHP » Dec 30, 2008 06:30

its suposed to be the highest hot form DF-legion, 50 value, i do have it and its not good for rvr at all, againts viper3 users u should play ns lol

since there is no inmunity timer, a good infil-sb will reenvenom u as soon as u purge it ^^

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Postby Rent » Dec 30, 2008 08:48

-Use IP in fight and take Purge after assasins death.
-Best thing for range stealther is a critical shot opening.<-hybrid ranger spec
After that try evade stun or (if blades) sidestun. (At first with meleespec)
-You can also use your instant speed to kite him.

(Normally no class has a chance against a viper 3 assel. I know only a few :
-Block tank [He needs a 50-70% blockchance to avoid redoting]
-Friar [Asselkiller.. with rr5 nearly unkillable]
-BD [with disease no problem]
-Warden [I fought against Holz.. really difficult]
-SVG [If he gets a better openingthan the stealther] )

Every other classes will have only a chance to beat them , if they have a higher RR which allows more RAs like ST,TWF,WoC... or passives like MoBlock3-4...)
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Postby Aragorn » Dec 30, 2008 12:40

Ranger rr5 => purge => speed + endu run => stealth =)

And you won't die :P
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Postby Salidor » Dec 30, 2008 13:36

I just thought of this as i was reading rents posts ^^

Frist Aid?

Will that abilty work when your getting ticks from a Dot?
burn it right after the fight is over? it should work alot like a pot does but i always thought it was pointless untill the few times i do kill a Inf just to die 15 secs later to there dot lol


I tend to win alittle more then i lose vs assasins. but anything thats RR7+ is a pain in the butt ^^

My rangers spec is Full melee, only thing i got in bow is AT 12 O.o

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Postby Musikus » Dec 30, 2008 13:47

a dot keeps you in combat = no stealth, no FA, no MCL, but shooting bow and casting.
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Postby Salidor » Dec 30, 2008 14:42

aye just tested FA with a budy ^^

so that one is out :+)

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Postby vangonaj » Dec 30, 2008 17:17

Purge2 or 3 but CalvoHP said good infi or sb will use other weapon with dot. Use mos4 for see him and stun him and use ip.

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Postby Sonnenschein » Dec 30, 2008 18:07

Hot-charge: Grand Chancelor

I would try to kite the assasin.

MOS 4 -> shot him out + use disease charge / sc debuff (works good on lurikeen since they dont have much strengh) on him, run a bit with, shot again etc.

If he stealthed -> shot him out or try melee

It's hard to shot ppl out because normally they move fast, but with a bot luck you can stay on range so the dot never hits you ;)

=> pd3-4 is also helpfull in combination with purge 2-3 = not dot dmg, no melee damage... assasin down

The trick is: have more charges, pods and lahmer ra's as your opponent XD so you are prepared for all eventualities :P

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Postby PNG » Dec 30, 2008 18:39

Disease-Charges? oO Since when can you get Disease-Charge in Classic's ? Always thought it was a Toa-Charge.....

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Postby Aragorn » Dec 30, 2008 18:58

Sonnenschein wrote:Hot-charge: Grand Chancelor

I would try to kite the assasin.

MOS 4 -> shot him out + use disease charge / sc debuff (works good on lurikeen since they dont have much strengh) on him, run a bit with, shot again etc.

If he stealthed -> shot him out or try melee

It's hard to shot ppl out because normally they move fast, but with a bot luck you can stay on range so the dot never hits you ;)

=> pd3-4 is also helpfull in combination with purge 2-3 = not dot dmg, no melee damage... assasin down

The trick is: have more charges, pods and lahmer ra's as your opponent XD so you are
prepared for all eventualities :P


If you purge in fight the asssin will simply switch the mainhand for a new dot poison
-.-"

best way is just don't to fight them >.<
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