thats the problem here. someone has a good idea, but its bad. we did not try it, but its bad.
pana: maybe there are some skilled albs that wanna participate the rvr after a dragonraid. as long as every idea is called ****** in broad or the forum, nothing will change.

sry for my english

Sonnenschein wrote:Metolman that's no the fault of the server and not a question of balancing.

=> Midgard needs a more or less good setup aswell. Without a shaman a fg is senseless - but since Midgard has only Shamans & Skalds there is no Problem to find one XD
(I guess every lvl 50 Mid is able to log a sced lvl 50 shaman and if not they have a lvl 50 skald ^^)

Hu? Runemaster Speed+Sprint = Speed5. On Live many Mid Grps were running without Skald. Runemaster or other Tanks (except of Thane) were better

THANES FTW!

If you killed one mid,he will come back with group (2-3 ppls).
If you killed 2 mid,they will come back with group(3-4ppls).
If you killed 1fg mid,they will come back with 1fg+(3-4ppls).
If you killed 10 mid,they will come back with 2 fg.

So,Albions not have enough players..
Hibs can make zerg but we are dont wanting to do zerg.Cause it's not honourable.

You cant change this.Mids must change their minds but it's impossible.

Hildorien wrote:If you killed one mid,he will come back with group (2-3 ppls).
If you killed 2 mid,they will come back with group(3-4ppls).
If you killed 1fg mid,they will come back with 1fg+(3-4ppls).
If you killed 10 mid,they will come back with 2 fg.

So,Albions not have enough players..
Hibs can make zerg but we are dont wanting to do zerg.Cause it's not honourable.

You cant change this.Mids must change their minds but it's impossible.

My blood boil when i read such crap ! every realm does it !

Every realm does it?all nights i am in agra.But why i didnt see it?%1 hibs making zerg.Cause sometimes we are being very angry.

Hildorien wrote:If you killed one mid,he will come back with group (2-3 ppls).
If you killed 2 mid,they will come back with group(3-4ppls).
If you killed 1fg mid,they will come back with 1fg+(3-4ppls).
If you killed 10 mid,they will come back with 2 fg.

So,Albions not have enough players..
Hibs can make zerg but we are dont wanting to do zerg.Cause it's not honourable.

You cant change this.Mids must change their minds but it's impossible.

Last 2 weeks when albs did rvr they ever run in zerg. When we played in Emain 1 year ago zerg was albion rulles.

I can´t understand 1 thing. When i played live server albion was the most popular kingdom. Here nobody play there

Elwin wrote:

Hildorien wrote:If you killed one mid,he will come back with group (2-3 ppls).
If you killed 2 mid,they will come back with group(3-4ppls).
If you killed 1fg mid,they will come back with 1fg+(3-4ppls).
If you killed 10 mid,they will come back with 2 fg.

So,Albions not have enough players..
Hibs can make zerg but we are dont wanting to do zerg.Cause it's not honourable.

You cant change this.Mids must change their minds but it's impossible.

My blood boil when i read such crap ! every realm does it !

I saw this a few times already ^^

was on my ranger when i saw a thane/shaw combo and they where easly beating a lv 45 bard 50 champ. so i Added, bard died but we beat the mids back ^^

10 mins later mids come with a healer adding to them this time the bard/champ fought but another duo of hibs came from behind and beat the mids again ^^ -that time i didnt add-

I guess mids thinkin hibs where 4-5+ came back with 7 lol after they beat the 2 Different hib groups in 2 different fights the hibs desided to log and try again an hour later

this is just one of many times i see mids get 1-2+ more each time they lose a fight. ( theres nothing Wrong with asking for help ) But the sad thing i see tho during the last 3 weeks Mids get that help while albs/hibs dont.

Mids arnt to blame for that, But it is sad to see when a hib asks for help he/she normaly gets yelled at with a No, we Dont want to Zerg.

I play on my ranger alot ^^ and so i dont ask for group much but i do see alot of disapointed hibs becuase of this nasty cicle in argamon.

Well folks, I don't know about you all but I fight to win as opposed to say, losing. In that case I will muster up whomever, and whatever that is available (i am not a class bigot) to accomplish that goal. So if it takes 10 guys to beat 1 player, then by all means go for it =)

Is it fair to consistantly fight 10:1 odds? Probably not, but this is supposed to resemble 'war,' not a Mcdonalds playpen. With that said, I do think it would be useful to offer incentives for people to choose not to take a "lets zerg em to death" path to victory. I think it would make for a much more productive dialog in this thread if people would propose more such ideas so as to be able to form a consensus with one another about what would be an acceptable resolution to this conflict amongst players. Once the majority agrees then it could be sent to the staff to review and ultimately accept or reject the proposal. To me, that would be a better use of all of our time here =)

Hildorien wrote:Every realm does it?all nights i am in agra.But why i didnt see it?%1 hibs making zerg.Cause sometimes we are being very angry.

i dont know why neither :p Well there are tthings sometimes poeple dont notice while playing 1 side ... we are poor, enemis are imba op etc , thats what every realm says ^^ I am everywhere so i have good overview for all things ...

vangonaj wrote:

Hildorien wrote:If you killed one mid,he will come back with group (2-3 ppls).
If you killed 2 mid,they will come back with group(3-4ppls).
If you killed 1fg mid,they will come back with 1fg+(3-4ppls).
If you killed 10 mid,they will come back with 2 fg.

So,Albions not have enough players..
Hibs can make zerg but we are dont wanting to do zerg.Cause it's not honourable.

You cant change this.Mids must change their minds but it's impossible.

Last 2 weeks when albs did rvr they ever run in zerg. When we played in Emain 1 year ago zerg was albion rulles.

I can´t understand 1 thing. When i played live server albion was the most popular kingdom. Here nobody play there

May be albs changed their realms..

so did quite some mids...

besides, the "coming back with 1 more" is really pretty much done in all 3 realms
me, personally, im usually for trying it once, twice, thrice or more often again with same amount/same setup but after all, before someone decides he wants to log off, you rather take one more and see, maybe it all adds up to 8v8, you can see where it goes
a few weeks ago we had some real big rvr going with about 2 fgs on each side, everyone coming back again for at least 4 hours
thats what its supposed to be like imho but i dont know what triggered the big rvr
back then most of us were "adding" into every fight we saw, so "adding" didnt kill the rvr, unlike what some people want to believe...

Ronian? - lol never said you need a skald and we nearly never run with one if Comets not there (Rest of the skalds in our ally is kinda inactive)

After reading once again, I think Holzmichels idea is not that bad after all.
Maybe a year ago, every Sunday Midgard was zerging as Alb&Hibs were zerging too in Emain. Everyone was invited to join, RP's were good too (If it was not hopeless for us due to a lack of casters)

And if I think about this, many people started to get their first RvR experience there, because it was hard to get a group if you had absolutely no RR - but after you were proofed in this fights, you gain a places in groups, you have been on TS with many people and got to know each other.

So besides the DR, RvR events would be nice - but pls without Rewards like Reskins!
(Remember the last 2 RvR events? - 90 Hibs vs. 65 Mids vs. 50 Albs - so who was the underdog there? At the end we were 21 ppl. (everyone left due to a lack of fun) getting 3 tokens form the GM because he had a good day maybe.)

Sonnenschein wrote:So besides the DR, RvR events would be nice - but pls without Rewards like Reskins!
(Remember the last 2 RvR events? - 90 Hibs vs. 65 Mids vs. 50 Albs - so who was the underdog there? At the end we were 21 ppl. (everyone left due to a lack of fun) getting 3 tokens form the GM because he had a good day maybe.)

Thats cries for a coop-event !

@Psiho Stop talking nonsense.

@Sonnenschein
1.Part of event

Hib wants to win the events.

Mid wants to zerg to get RPs.

Who weren´t on Hib/Mid side , was on Alb side.Mid camped near Alb respawn ..so Alb has no chance to participate for mob killin.

In the 2.Part all lot of mids checked that they want get items and not RPs, so mid were concetrating more on mission part than of ganking enemies (okay ..after all, second part was a ganking eventXD) ,but -and this is the point-
there were a lot of x-realmer at the beginning on hib side,because few mids were ****** off to get only few items and albs were ****** off to get nearly nothing and only death on their side all the time.(at last event)
That´s why hib had a lot of more players on their side.

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A other one of you said albs did also zergs this week .Okay fine. I saw a bigger amount of them,but they´re not running with RR5-9 SG all the time,but with rr 3+ ( It seemed they were really new 50er).
It´s right that every realm "zergs"(in this topic it means to come with 1-2 players more again after wipe) sometimes.
But i noticed that few players in Mid start most of times (nearly all the time) with 8 players.
Okay maybe the other realm can find also 8 player,but anyone believes that a random grp can beat a High RR (means on Uth rr6+) and well played grp ? I can´t believe it .
Hib has more players who try to find enough othe rplayers to get a balance there.Alb seems to have problems.
On the one hand a lot of oldies/newbies were ganked down and don´t want to fight again, on the other hand oldies doens´t accept newbies.
Hib has so many active 50er , so that isn´t a problem for them ,but Alb is leaking

It´s like Hildorien said, players must change their mind. (exspecially some Mids)

-The current RP grp system gives a bonus for zerger.(x<8 vs8).
More players in group gives more RPs for everyone.
So there should be a relation to grp size and smaller grps should get more RPs than bigger grps when they are fighting eachother.

-I hate (really) these stupid reclaim actions at 1:00- 2:00 in the morning after nobody defends their keeps and towers.(mind changing!!)

-I think the Agramon keep blockades the best place for big fights.So it should be deleted and instead of it there should set up a King of the Hill bonus (5-7%RP bonus) in the whole middle of Agramon.

-MGs are all the time open.(No Agratower anymore)
Porting system is the same.

-DF opening system depends on homekeeps and towers.

Keeps:
First of all the new 1.93+ look
Start RP/EXP bonus : maybe 10%
EXP/RP Bonus increases 1. when a guild holds the keep
2.when the keep lvl goes up to 2-10
Every step should give ~2% more bonus,but the keep holding costs should be greater than atm.

Towers:
important for crafting speed like currently
increases money from mobs
bonus can increase when a guild holds it at lvl 2 to 10


Keepguards should be stronger:

-Patrolls around keeps
-more guards inside the keep
-CC immu timer
-more dmg

The invasor ( other realm ) should get a bigger amount of RP when he raids a higher lvl keep/tower.A lvl 1 unclaimed Keep/tower gives nothing.

So i´m empty now








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