Demiurgo wrote:You always complains about one button spammers, but do you know what you say?

Almost every shield tank usually go slam+backstyle+anytime=3 buttons
Enchanters always used stun+debuff+dd+bomb= 4 buttons
Savages use 3-4 selfbuffs+2styles= 5-6 buttons
Clerics use stun+spread+small heal+bigger healer= 4 buttons
Bonedancers use debuff+istant lifedrain+root+dd= 4 buttons
Wizard uses root+2bolts+dd=4 buttons

Eldritch uses mez+stun+disease+snare+aoe snare+aoe disease+str debuff+dex debuff+str/con debuff+deq/qui debuff+nearsight+nuke= 12 buttons.

Do I win ?

For the record the term "one button spammers" is a metaphor for easy mode. The "one button" terminology can be negated with a simple fact that everyone uses 5 buttons just to move around.

Zaraki wrote:

Raven wrote:"Oh look ! Those two guys are dueling ! *grabs bow* ARPEEEEEZZZZZ" ==> "Hmm those two are dueling, I'll watch and wait and then challenge the winner to test my skills..."

==> Oh look, those 2 are dueling, I better turn on my fraps and take some screenshots so I can report them for arpee farming.

With dueling I meant one on one.
There still are soloers in agramon, It's not always fg v fg

Zaraki wrote:

Raven wrote:"Oh look ! Those two guys are dueling ! *grabs bow* ARPEEEEEZZZZZ" ==> "Hmm those two are dueling, I'll watch and wait and then challenge the winner to test my skills..."

==> Oh look, those 2 are dueling, I better turn on my fraps and take some screenshots so I can report them for arpee farming.

Nope, fraps and screenshots don't work. Tried it before.

@Raven: Yes that would be really nice... it was the way we used to play in our guild.

But many are frustrated, because they dont wanna run against a zerg or run as a zerg by themselves. Its not just about RP's because u make good rps by killing a zerg (had that allready - if u are the strongest group in a zerg and kill a zerg you do many rp's).

But this threat wont change a thing...

kharnatex wrote:and I'll probably have to put up one spell from all hibby casters that rank as op is the insta stun....yeah i don't see albion or middy casters getting anything close to as good in baseline as that.

instant stun, do i miss something with my eld? sorry but i never saw a instant stun in the baseline of a hibernia caster on uthgard. you sure you played all 3 realms?

pls don't join this server, and after a few weeks tell all the other players how it works and start to flame. uthgard got enough of this kind of players. we don't need more of this.

Greetings Ypsen

Almost every shield tank usually go slam+backstyle+anytime=3 buttons

Hey!

I use:

Slam
Flank (side)
-Shadows Rain
Shadows Edge(back)
-Eclipse
Duel Shadows
Flurry!
DT
Blinding dust
Charge


Actually When I press slam:

I also press:
FLurry
Flank
Dirty Tricks sometimes
Dmg add charge
I press all of them in 2 seconds then I press shadows rain.

Not 3 buttons!

Sonnenschein wrote:@Raven: Yes that would be really nice... it was the way we used to play in our guild.

But many are frustrated, because they dont wanna run against a zerg or run as a zerg by themselves. Its not just about RP's because u make good rps by killing a zerg (had that allready - if u are the strongest group in a zerg and kill a zerg you do many rp's).

But this threat wont change a thing...

i love running solo but when group appears i always get ganked....so i dont see why i shouldnt do either. I for myself would let solos live when im in group if others do same...but maybe its just me but some people have a grudge against me...so i have no other choice.

Flamingfury wrote:For the record the term "one button spammers" is a metaphor for easy mode. The "one button" terminology can be negated with a simple fact that everyone uses 5 buttons just to move around.

Flamingfury

I've read alot of Posts but one thing must be said.
each time i make a remark, He always understands Fully of my meanings.

Every one seems to agree that BDers are the easyest Class to Solo for 1vs1. Not many can Handle a Spamming insta LT,
But to Add, BDers are normaly Not wanted in a 8 Man group. Making it that much harder to play one.
Even with Pets people would rather have a Ruinie or another tank.


To Add:

People Say Mid Guard is the Melee Realm, Hib the Magic realm and Alb has Both of both Worlds.

I would Agree that Mid has some of the Best Damage in the game out of those 3. but Albs seem to be the caster Realm, they Have the Range. But there Growth Styles are still even better then the Hib Realm Compare the 2 realms growth styles on there weapons.
and So i would put hibs in the middle section.

Classes with stun.... Aye Stun is a Might abilty. But if stun keeps getting you killed then may i suggest ->PURGE2<- ???

Over All. Any Class that can beat any one 90% of the time After you use lol I like what Flame said -12- Different buttons Needs a Nerf.
But becuase Uthgard Not going to ToA and the Necro/BDers/Animists are not fully working Theres only a Few Classes that are Easy Mode.

My Opion of OPeD ---On This Server Only--- For groups that range from 1vs1 or 4vs4

(I find that the 8 Man group and or Zerging groups are pretty even. Thats if you put the same skill people agenst each other)

Mids

BDers: Most should now why

Spirit Masters: LT with MoC3 and a incept Pet. thats scary to face. only a lucky Stun will give you a Chance in hell to win that if he wasnt smart and got purge2 ^^ -Light eldys- might win here.

Thats It for mids. There 8 Man i find the easyest to set up.

Albs

All of the LT casters. that where smart enought to get MoC3

Thrugs: Once they get 2-3 stunning pets on you a 2-3 snare Pets and the rest melee pets your Dead. - Maybe a BM/Zerk/Merc could win-

Friar: again Only on this server and only 1vs1 or small groups.
With them almost being Fully buffed just with there toys. there almost unbeatable to alot of classes.

Reavers: TWF3 is always a hard thing to get and beat ^^ add that with there stun back attack Ouch. But if you have Purge and keep a eye as he casts TWF you might have a chance ^^

Necros: Luckly there not working yet. once they do the uthgard RvR Cummunity will Die Unless people start to make alot of casters unstead of there Melee groups ^^

thats if for albs.

Hibs

erm.......

Animists: they got the worst LT in the Game Woot ^^ and there not working fully like our BDer/Necro friends. But even then.
Animists will be just like the Bder and maybe Necro. people tend to solo Alot more instead of getting invited to good groups. But you will need to Time your pets JUST right with a Animist and only if some one is stupied enought to Charge in will die. just wait 3-4 mins and that animist will be out of power.

VW: I would say there darn close to one of the best tanks for Hib. with the added effect of there casting and there nice fallow up styles. there a hard tank to beat.

now people say our Stun Casters are OPed. purge2???
but to add i think alot of hibs would agree they would rather have LT then stun.

thats it for hibs.

some people also like to add that Bards are OPed. HAHA before you bash a bard ask them how many Qbars they have? and need to work on during a Fight. Play one in lv50 RvR before bashing a bard ^^

Bards i think are the Hardest to play for Hib... Theres So much that rides on a good bard. If he sucks then arg...

All this OPed thinking is only For small groups or 1vs1. 8 Man Fighting is a large difference.

People talk about fair fights etc.

Most of the people that say they dont add. Do actually add:)
Just and example EDN has some dont add policy/ dont zerg policy.
But often they come with groupsize that is inappropriate for a certain time of day, e.g. just soloer around but hey we have a group of 3 mids.
Or i meet guild members in Agra adding like hell. Cindai and Comet for example.

My policy is. During my soloruns i make experience with people adding and people not adding. There aint that many player on uthgard, so you can remember their names. If i meet them on the field already fighting. Those who do usually add, will be added. The others spared until the fight has a winner.

So instead talking a big dealt, simply remember the golden rule (bible):
"You wanna be treated fair, then start treating other people fair!"




Offtopic:

Salidor. I dont get it^^
You suggest think like purge 2 and moc3, but honestly arent they useless crap. But i am just one of the never-played-live-people so nevermind or explain abit


Greetz
Nes

MoC3 is somthing i would recommend to All LT casters that also tend to Solo/Duo Alot.

Purge 2 is somthing that Alot of live players get first. here people say purge1 is enough.

I would agree purge1 is enough for group play if you can time it right.

But when you listen to Alot of players /crying ****** about Stun from either a Tank Or caster one of the sultions is Purge2.

Stun wasnt much of a complaint on pellinor. It was the LT casters or being stun during a whole fight by the thrugs pets.

Honestly Salidor,you talk about "oped" classes of hib and don´t mention lighteld in any way but as a counter for BD?Light Eld is one of the strongest casters with a utility only rivaled by a Cabalist...in a grp of 4 with a debuffing Ench a druid and a bard you can get down just about any 4 man team of Mid and Alb without to much of a problem imo...

Anyways,all that "op" QQing is senseless,classes are how they are and no matter how much any1 whines we have to cope with it.

About fair fights:
For me a fair fight is when you want to come back and fight again cause it was actually FUN to fight.If fights are,in my opinion,unfair i simply quit,cause i play this game to have Fun and not to please others.

Ah,another sidenote:You mention Purge 2 as reason why baseline stuns are not freakin strong,which is completly senseless.First off it costs quite a few points,second of it has a 15 Min Reuse timer.1 win every 15 mins vs. a hib caster is not rly a reason to say "hey,my baseline stun is so bad...",it still remains as an awesome Weapon vs. just about any enemy Caster.

Greetz,
Player of Islana

just made another vid. nothing fency - no editing , even the music was playing at that time.music doesn´t really match to the pictures , but that stuff was playing in the background.

fight1 ,rapidshare,188mb , 5min inc at 3 in the night^^

my gf forced me to drink wine earlier and i was still a bit tipsy during that

hib: rr3-7 ,no assist , bad targeting ,barly teamplay ->randomgroup
vs
alb: rr3-5 ,couple 49´swith em ,ok teamplay -> randomgroup

+it was late in the evening

bit laggy at the beginning of the inc (thought that sorc close to me was a lag image^^)
take a look at my mana... it´s down to 0% at all times (blew my mana on a pally early and couldn´t recover from that, fight would have been over then pretty quick w/o sorc+pally , well didn´t work out ^^)

fight2 , rapidshare 78mb,2mins
guess who was on desktop during the whole fight

1 afk tank is always bad news - 7vs9 was a quick rape.

eventhough most of my group consisted of rr5+ 50s the albs made up for it with better overall teamplay and that made it fair again.

mfassben wrote:Honestly Salidor,you talk about "oped" classes of hib and don´t mention lighteld in any way but as a counter for BD?Light Eld is one of the strongest casters with a utility only rivaled by a Cabalist...in a grp of 4 with a debuffing Ench a druid and a bard you can get down just about any 4 man team of Mid and Alb without to much of a problem imo...


Greetz,
Player of Islana

Light Eldy is the Best caster For Hib aye. But Alot Of Classes can beat a light Eldy easly.

the Other Realms have the Same that can Match A light eldy Easly Sorcs/Thrugs/Cabas. Ruinmasters. and depending on spec of RAs even a Spirit Master. with so many caster types that can Match a Light eldy I wont say there OP.

And P.S. I didnt make this post to ****** YOU OFF i did it for some one else.
that was complaining about Hibs beening OPed and /crying about Stun.

I didn´t say i was ****** off And the moment the Light Eld also gets purge only a Caba is a match for it any longer...maybe.The Enemy needs to purge your NS,when he does that you stun and kill.Since theres no Cure NS here on Uth NS is a really strong and deadly cast.
RM needs a bunch of luck to kill you,same goes for Sorc SM and Theurg.Only Caba,as mentioned before,is really going to be a pain in the ass since it has nearly the same utility as a Light Eld.

Greetz,
Player of Islana

theu has speed+ nearsight has immunity= theu kills eldricht...