HI all. I play on uth since almost a year and only in albion and i am usually not active in irc or in this forum, so its my first post here. the situation becomes more and more worse, cause we have a massive lack of players. i have accepted that holding df or ck in agramon is like christmas and eastern on the same day for albion. of course we have no df (exspecially legion) drops, no rp bonus and so on... but atm we mostly havent got enough people to build a random fg. as u can see on herald last week rps.. only 3 albs in top 50 ranking. the motivation is very low and more and more are leaving to other games or perhaps - i dont know - to other realms. it seems that the bp reset was the point over the i for some people to leave. i am glad that i can run and play solo very often. but what should others do? So.. if u want to play a 3-realm-game, join albion and not just the winning team!!!
greetz to all,
elrill

the fight before 3 min was best example.. we were running with 4 lvl 50 in team and cleric (!!!) around.. killed a 2 man team hibs and one solo hib.. then 5 rr7/8 hibs came + 2 hibadders and wiped us. result: rvr is over for our team. its really hard to accept this from day to day

http://herald.uthgard-server.net/herald.php?view=statistics

In Albion it was never a lack of Players; it was most likely a lack of RvR Active people - You should try to convince more Albion Players to participate in RvR!

Well, Albion was always de weaker realm on Uthgard :p Also, we are in summer time, holidays, freetime...

Apart from all these... i agree we are having difficulties to get a decent party, as far i remember the last week i just got one good fg but we had not much chance when the other realms gets easily 2-3fgs, and I don't mean to just roam rvr(even when 2 fg's add we can kill something ), i mean raid a keep for us is a pain nowdays. As soon as we take the ram and begin to hit the door we get 16 hib/mid peeps upon us.

I'd suggest devs to do a new feature in rvr. I don't know if it'd be effective but... what about a time reset to some keeps/towers? I mean, if in X hours the ownership of these chosen keeps don't change there would be a reset to open df to all and If any realm re-take it df will close again. At least in summer time i think it would give a change to all the realms :p

Zhulgar.

I couldn't imagine playing Albion. I complain about poor xp on hib and I can pimp out all my alts with lvl 51 gear. They never have any bg bonus more then a few hours and I think they had DF last week for maybe 12 hours and it was like 2 weeks before that. No more bonus in Agramon below 40 so no options there. Although Albs rarely have their MG open and its safe for xp behind the milegate. Its just a quick swim though from Hib mg to reach Albs MG if we are bored. So, I gotta agree. Why would you want to play Alb or switch over to Alb.

Sorry Skar

Metty wrote:http://herald.uthgard-server.net/herald.php?view=statistics

In Albion it was never a lack of Players; it was most likely a lack of RvR Active people - You should try to convince more Albion Players to participate in RvR!

Well you can draw other conclusions too: Maybe the ppl in Albion quit before even come to agramon. Or they are active but not successfull. Just going to RvR does not give Rps . Last one might either be an issue of balance or playerskill.

The problem i see currently in agramon is, that we either dont get enough people with the right level (Yes i ran with Level 46s in group although they should have better been in thridranki) or class. Due to the distribution of key features in Albion on different classes compared to Hibernia or Midard you usually lack a lot without the right player pool. Thats the time when you think: Should we go out without endu, speed5, sos, rupt and real damage? On the other hand you cant really afford sos in an alb group anyway, how overpowered it might be on uthgard .

So Metty your statement is quite cynical. Just go out and do rvr does not gives RPs. If you lose 4 times without any chance because you dont have a setup to compete anyone will log out.

Well, if everyone would simply go out everyone will win and loose at some point; there should not be an all-time-loser.

But if no one even tries doing RvR, only those few High-RR Groups will remain; making RvR for "lowbie's" impossible.

"Zerg"

there should not be one.. but there is one^^

i played the last days in random grps for myself ... and mh if u win a fight the enemy zergs u down .. and then u dont have eneough players or just dont want to (like me) build up another zerg then RvR is over yesterday or sth we tried it some more times .. didn`t kill the whole zerg but some of them but even if u make nearly the same amount of rp`s its just no fun to loose every time (=

Metty wrote: Well, if everyone would simply go out everyone will win and loose at some point; there should not be an all-time-loser.

but there is...

Metty wrote: But if no one even tries doing RvR, only those few High-RR Groups will remain; making RvR for "lowbie's" impossible.

"Zerg"

well you talk like that COULD happen...
but thats the ACTUAL situation for albion, sad but true.

"Zerg" - It lays in Albion's hand to get the right morality towards RvR

I think its a population problem there. All the players that had higher levels must have moved on or have remade Alts. Braem is fricken crawling with Albs but Agramon is rarely over 1fg. This cycle happened in Hib about 2 months ago. Then it came back to what it is now. I can see Mid maybe seeing this downside soon also. Its just people moving around and getting bored then returning back to their original Realms.

how is a realm that raids dragon 2 times a week with more then 20 50s not able to make rvr? that makes no sense.

cause they need more than 20 players to kill the drake maybe

Less dragonraids, more rvr, problem solved.

Metty wrote:"Zerg"

I love you.

ok, i wanna show u an example how normal RvR can become zerg, what demotivates players to go to Agramon.

The Definition

zerg is defined as a „mass of players attacking less players“ like its known from Zerglings, little monsters used as war units from a race called „Zerg“ of the computer game „Star Craft“, which only are strong if they are in superior number.

lets start with a sepcial rvr situation:

every realm has an 8-man-group in agramon, maybe random groups cause lack of players. fair fights will result of this situation.


One Problem: your are not alone!

now lets imagine what happens if some more ppl of one realm logg in to make RvR. They build a new grp and begin roaming. now we have maybe 2 groups of one realm and 1 group of the other two realms.

...u cant forbid anybody to do RvR! ...just accept it!


The Fight

2 groups of hostile realms find each other and begin fighting. ...FAIR till now!


Now one perfect situation:

2 groups of hostile realms find each other and begin fighting. the other group of one of the fighting realm sees the fight and waits till the fight is over, without to help the group of the own realm. ...FAIR!



Bad situation: ADD

chance to win a fight is higher with more ppl. So the other group of the „2-fg-realm“ adds the fight and help their comrades. or maybe the one group is going to die, and so the diying group allows the other group to help them in the fight. ...UNFAIR.

...but what about comradeship? ...the group which got killed will be angry that the other group only waited till they got killed and didnt act.

Result 1: ZERG

the killed group saw that another group joined their enemies to kill them. they know that the havent any chance against these masses of players and begin to build battlegroups and get more people to fight against these two groups. ...Domino Effect ist the result! Any realm will always be in minority.

Result 2: LOGOUT

the killed group is ****** off and logs out. ...RvR dies! ...its not possible for minorities to get any chance of gaining Rps or Bps.


Solution: FAIRNESS

in my eyes its the only solution to let things go as they go. ...dont help even if your realm mates get killed. ...u will be an ass, but u will save RvR and keep things fair. More ppl will be motivated to do RvR!


Just my opinion!