RP malus in BGs?
Wtf? What does this nasty annoying dwarf want again?!

Its simple - I´ll explain.

I think the RP gain in BGs needs some balancing.
Many people reach BG RR caps without beeing near to the lvl cap of the BG. So they cannot gain fast xp anymore in the BGs, they need to find other places to level. For a lot of people this is annoying, cause the xp gain in the classic zones is low if you dont find a good levelgroup. Also DF is not always open, and if there are too many enemies in Agramon, you also cant level there.

So, it would be good if people were closer at their level cap when they reach the maximum RR of a BG. This isnt a very big problem at Brae and Wilton, cause there you can simply go to the next BG to level. But imagine a lvl 48 Player that cant go to Thidranki anymore. When DF is closed and lots of enemies are running through Agramon, he wont have much fun. He mostly wont get invited from RvR-Groups cause his level is too low. So it will be an annoying way to 50 for him.

To damp this, I suggest the following RP factors:
Braemar: 0,9
Wilton: 0,8
Thid: 0,7

Lower malus for lower BGs cause in that levelrange the xp gain in classic zones is still okay. But for lvl 45+ its annoying slowly -> so higher RP malus in Thidranki to stay there longer.

Some people could say this is not a good idea - cause people will stay longer in BGs and not go to Agramon.
But I ask you, whats worse:
- A player that stays longer in Thidranki and comes out finally with level 49,9 [You still need to level a lot additionally, for example in Agramon, to be that close to 50]
- or a player that gets kicked out of a BG with lvl 47 and has lost one good possibility to increase his level fast?

Thank you for reading - if you made it until here.
Looking forward to your replys *preparing buckets* ^^

Edit: This is an alternative solution to this:
Suggestion - XP reward for finishing a BG cap

I would prefer the one-time XP boost for claiming a keep in a bg like it is on live . Or increasing xp gain from guards/keeplords because they are most times tougher then normal mobs and alert enemy players, when keep is claimed.

Uhm, I think doing so would totally waste it for the people that CAN find good xp (and believe me with some organisation it's pretty easy).
My hero is now 49.9, and I'm putting my xp off because I want to cap thid first (fun + easier rps at my lvl). He managed to get to 46+ pretty easy by XPing in DF/classic zones (tinderboxes ftw). When I reached 46 I first heard of Agramon and started organising full xp grps and I must say xp hasn't been better.. EVER! I felt like I was xping at lvl 36 instead of lvl 46.
Also: claiming that there is no decent xp besides thidranki at this lvl is VERY wrong.
First of all, thidranki xp does NOT cope with normal xp, not even xp in classic zones. If u have an rvr grp for thid (which would in most cases be pretty well balanced) u can easily get way more xp better outside Thid 90% of the time just because it's hard to find a steady enemy or kill ratio without losing too much downtime on releasing and regrping.
Also, if u manage to cap thid at lvl 47-48 there's something wrong. Unless u are a stealhing class this should not be the case. Certainly not for tanks or casters. I've seen tanks/casters/... even below lvl 40 in thid last night, if they keep on going to thid they'll get past Wilton cap before reaching lvl 43 which imo is stupid, stick with your own bg please. If u wanna be an easy prey that's your choice, but then complaining about an empty Wilton BG is just sad. So I can imagine these people hitting thid cap before reaching lvl 49, yes. + Xp in thid aint worth waiting for if u want to lvl up as I've explained above.

Last but not least, this would be a step further into making Uthgard a BG server, which as we know is not the goal.

hm i made a new toon a berserker he is from about lvl 5? in braemar... i really didnt exp much out of bgs and now i am lvl 34 and 1L9 i dont think the rp rate is too high.

with that people would just stay longer in BGs.

Rector is right. The realm rank cap is too low, but ONLY for people who start doing rvr at higher level.
Example:
I made a sm and exped from lv 1 to level 33. Made 3-4 hours of rvr in 2 days and I was 2l2 and level 34 plus 3 bubbles.
I grouped a lv 6, while I went from 1l0 to 1l9 in 1 hour or so, he made from 6 to 18.

I think it's not good that people will have this super power level. I'd like the rvr exp bonus would be only for a level range, at least for braemar, like from 30 to 35.

the xp multiplier should be in every lvl range
just now I got the problem, that my merc is lvl 42 and 3l3 and I guess he will be 4l2 before he even reaches lvl 46 ^^

couldn´t care less

I have checked the issue by running 2 characters through Braemar (current
stage is Wilton) and to be honest. I can not reproduce the problem of reaching
the RR cap too soon.
You really have to consider that we do not balance exp- or rp-gains for
twinks and thatfor under the presumption that a player has to at least do some
"normal" exping in order to get equipment the current gains are absolutely ok!
Both tested characters reached the max level before reaching the max RR.
I will continue my testings through Wilton and Thidranki, but please understand
that this takes some time due to the fact of not being able to play all the time

Haldan

Haldan wrote:I have checked the issue by running 2 characters through Braemar (current
stage is Wilton) and to be honest. I can not reproduce the problem of reaching
the RR cap too soon.
You really have to consider that we do not balance exp- or rp-gains for
twinks and thatfor under the presumption that a player has to at least do some
"normal" exping in order to get equipment the current gains are absolutely ok!
Both tested characters reached the max level before reaching the max RR.
I will continue my testings through Wilton and Thidranki, but please understand
that this takes some time due to the fact of not being able to play all the time

Haldan

what realm? do i get to kill you? !

massivmampfer wrote:I would prefer the one-time XP boost for claiming a keep in a bg like it is on live . Or increasing xp gain from guards/keeplords because they are most times tougher then normal mobs and alert enemy players, when keep is claimed.

Second that.

Haldan wrote:I have checked the issue by running 2 characters through Braemar (current
stage is Wilton) and to be honest. I can not reproduce the problem of reaching
the RR cap too soon.
You really have to consider that we do not balance exp- or rp-gains for
twinks and thatfor under the presumption that a player has to at least do some
"normal" exping in order to get equipment the current gains are absolutely ok!
Both tested characters reached the max level before reaching the max RR.
I will continue my testings through Wilton and Thidranki, but please understand
that this takes some time due to the fact of not being able to play all the time

Haldan

I'm interested in knowing at what levels you did braemar rvr and when you went to exp^

I reached rp cap nearly with every char before i got maxlvl in bgs.

Im not saying theres a change needed, but i dont think people who like to play bg will exp a char to 50 only because they cant participate in bgs anymore.

To refer to the "rp off" thread they will just make a new toon or quit.

sry for the bad english

The whole BG System will be rebalanced at the given time. As I stated in another thread we need to correct somethings outside the BG's first to support a proper frame for the rebalancing. Things will fall into place over the next few months.

Rector wrote:Many people reach BG RR caps without beeing near to the lvl cap of the BG.

Easy fix for that, entering the BG at a higher level instead of leeching exp off grouping with higher lvl people who do everything for the useless greybie.

Flamingfury wrote:

Rector wrote:Many people reach BG RR caps without beeing near to the lvl cap of the BG.

Easy fix for that, entering the BG at a higher level instead of leeching exp off grouping with higher lvl people who do everything for the useless greybie.

Amen.