Old RA-System

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You really like the old RA System?

Yes, I have read your thread, but I still like it.
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No, I think you are right, I dont like it.
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I dont care.
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Total votes : 103

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Ranius
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Postby Ranius » Aug 13, 2008 15:17

infi vanish sounds like op. 2 pas? Bah!

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Postby massivmampfer » Aug 13, 2008 15:27

well...i prefer 2 pas instead of a vanish pussy^^. And if you move right can prevent getting paed 2 times...and it would be all 30 mins only anyway.

And if i remember right the dmg calculation for crit styles are not completed yet. As far as i remember blue wanted to involve AF/absorb of the target too. Would be logical though.

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Postby Demiurgo » Aug 13, 2008 15:51

It would be cool because this server would be the only one using that.
Anyway it's impossible doing it I tihnk. Where will you ask for doubts and question? Where will you check the correct working?
We have so many problems with new ra and we have access to them in live servers :(

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Postby Ronian » Aug 13, 2008 16:50

Ranius wrote:Hm, stealthers evade a lot already, but with dodger...but they get a nerf with viper, true...


Only Nightshade has access to viper and evade is capped at 50%..

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Postby Sonnenschein » Aug 13, 2008 17:55

...without MoS f.e. I could delete my hunter... I am easy for every NS, Infi with Viper & See Hidden then :( (hunter is gimp with NF, he will be even more with OF)

I think some of the changes that came with NF are kind of a balancing... but thats just my opinion.

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Postby Rector » Aug 13, 2008 19:01

Ok so lets say OF-RA´s are okay - but NF-RA´s are not that bad either.

But isnt it much much more important for Uthgard to finish all classes first?

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Postby Ranius » Aug 13, 2008 20:49

Rector wrote:Ok so lets say OF-RA´s are okay - but NF-RA´s are not that bad either.

But isnt it much much more important for Uthgard to finish all classes first?


/agree

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Postby Zippity » Aug 13, 2008 22:30

Ranius wrote:
Rector wrote:Ok so lets say OF-RA´s are okay - but NF-RA´s are not that bad either.

But isnt it much much more important for Uthgard to finish all classes first?


/agree



I second that. Poor necros,bone dancers, and animists =)

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Postby Murax » Aug 14, 2008 02:25

I would love old RA´s, altough I would loose my lovely charge.

Things were more balanced and you got unique RA´s -> great

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Postby CalvoHP » Aug 14, 2008 08:38

Zippity wrote:
Ranius wrote:
Rector wrote:Ok so lets say OF-RA´s are okay - but NF-RA´s are not that bad either.

But isnt it much much more important for Uthgard to finish all classes first?


/agree



I second that. Poor necros,bone dancers, and animists =)



agree there is a lot to work here, before trying a radical change should get the actual things smoothly

add druid's pets :)

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Postby jrhadden » Aug 14, 2008 08:43

I think Old RA have some nice balancing issues ( pure tanks vs hybrids ,
overall adjustment of realmbalance )

But reading the RAs for Stealther. Its gonna be a mess for Scout,Ranger, Hunter.

They got seen most of the time. IP/Physical defense sure but as active RA.
SB/Infi/NS all of them can specc to higher evade ( hunter has only evade 3 )
and at the same time go for much more dmg than right now. So the chances for u to win vs a true stealther are very weak. And with the current bow-issues....

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Uthgard Statistic is quit obvious. We have some decent server population especially on mid-side that is quit active. Nevertheless the highest RR Hunter since YEARS OF INACTIVITY is Nestral with RR5.1 or so... Isnt it strange? Why is nobody playing hunter intensivly (except in BG - where u meet fastfood of any kind ) ? Back then even bow-dmg was much worse then it is now. A non specced low dex warden could do the same dmg as a 45 bowspecced hunter. One could try to read these facts .. as precursor that something is wrong with hunter-balance.

Or is it just a coincidence?


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ps. /hug all those old mids for grouping my hunter back then. Thanks for the good time :)
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Postby Sonnenschein » Aug 14, 2008 10:57

Jep Nes thats what I think too.
I really like the tank balance, but thats all. But for all bow classes its worse.

murax wrote:Things were more balanced and you got unique RA´s -> great


=> Every class got a special RA right now too (RR5) and specs are often very different.

After looking through again, I think that you really need sg's to match the specs (especially in midgard - a pac healer wont heal that much as he does now if he wanna be a good mezzer against sorc/bard)

And in fact high RR groups will be more powerful as they are now.

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Postby jrhadden » Aug 14, 2008 12:01

Why does healer need to have more pac then right now ?
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Postby Ronian » Aug 14, 2008 14:48

jrhadden wrote:I think Old RA have some nice balancing issues ( pure tanks vs hybrids ,
overall adjustment of realmbalance )

But reading the RAs for Stealther. Its gonna be a mess for Scout,Ranger, Hunter.

They got seen most of the time. IP/Physical defense sure but as active RA.
SB/Infi/NS all of them can specc to higher evade ( hunter has only evade 1 )
and at the same time go for much more dmg than right now. So the chances for u to win vs a true stealther are very weak. And with the current bow-issues....


First of all, Hunter has evade2. And you didnt see that assassins have to buy see hidden ? On the other hand, bow users have the option to but he active ra "true sight", you can see stealthers on a very huge range!
Hunters can buy the evade ra too.

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Postby Sonnenschein » Aug 14, 2008 14:57

Ok bard/sorc will use more mastery of arts +aug dex... to get a mezz against them u will need this too

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