First thing, I liked the RvR yesterday too, also when I just was there in the end ^^

But I can support Panachier in the one way that there was RvR Information in IRC. Someone also said if a player posts we are X Ppl here looking for enemy, I guess if he does this regularly it brings people to Agra - BUT he becomes jailed - doesn't he?

I know GMs > all in german 'unantastbar' but if he brakes the rules, he risks that players will too.


And about adding questions - there musn't be cooperation if 2 realms fight against each other and the third doesn't fight with those 2, it's ok - sometime, I think it was said by Presto: You musn't fight if there is already a fight, but you can ^^

Edit: After seeing those screenshot I take back this last paragraph...


I don't want to critisize a single Admin, this just might serve as an inspiration for future.



Duke



Holz: What's when I say today there are 8 Hibs at Agra? If I read yours it's constructive what I did... your posts sounds like an excusion or a try to get an exception in this rule...



Edit 2:

massivmampfer wrote:you dont seem to get it too duke...

thx that you want to help me in comprehansion

If you say we are 8 players you clearly say we are running around in fg.

No, there also could be 8 solo people, or 2 4er grps etc.

With this you just want to tell the enemy that they shall prepare to meet a fg.

That's interpretation, but it also could be that yesterday the other realms wanted their zerg to have the same numbers but when hibernia had too much people they logged out

Saying there are xx hibs in agramon doesnt say anything about how those hibs are grouped.

Everyone knew that there was zerg, so you perfectly knew how many they were in this zerg

Its still random you just know that there is someone but no clear hints about setups locations and whatsoever.

If I say 8, do you know if I have 2 healer? 3 healer? a bard or just eld mezz? A caster or a tank grp? No - otherwise you get burned for beeing a which ^^

I just edited it up, because I don't want to make too many posts.

you dont seem to get it too duke...

If you say we are 8 players you clearly say we are running around in fg. With this you just want to tell the enemy that they shall prepare to meet a fg. Saying there are xx hibs in agramon doesnt say anything about how those hibs are grouped. Its still random you just know that there is someone but no clear hints about setups locations and whatsoever.

panachier wrote:yeah it's against rules...

running running and running and death... what a fun...

and post with XX albs XX hibs XX mids in agra is a rvr organisation... at least it s how it looks for me.

blame the low realm cause they regroup cause much more hibs than other realm but not complain about the GM that organise RVR cause telling that a GM do something that doesnt follow the rules is against the rules and you could be jailed...

very bad day for uthgard.i joined one fight for rvr and got no fun. i joined a second time cause guildmate asked me and guess what... no fun. but one more time if you wanna jail my chars do what you want, anyway with the design of the server, i ll erase them myself.

Aw, losing is no fun

Do you ever not complain dude ? I can only thank Nayru for trying to get mass RvRvR in Agramon, but obviously people like you just won't let it happen.

Go on, erase your chars and /wrists, no one will miss you fricken crybaby.

Flamingfury wrote:
Go on, erase your chars and /wrists, no one will miss you fricken crybaby.

I think you are wrong ^^

why complain about a high frequency in agramon?
nayru used his rights to encourage all 3 realms to take part and motivate them to log in by screening the numbers of online players in agramon.
i am sure there will be more of this actions in the next time involved in a periodicaly event.

Hm I think I must show this screenshots:





but in the end albs fougth vs. mids.... Crossrealm assist is bad but this was really fun at that time... so dont cry ^^

(no one ran away after the battle against the hibs, every realm thought hm.. so many lows here i muuust aaattttaack... so we attacked and they attacked... but every single realm couldn't stand against the hibs alone ^^)

the enemy of my enemy is my temporary friend ... easy, isn't it ?

Some time ago a suggestion came up: Adding a NF - enemy counter to the Herald - maybe this would push RvR in the same way, without the ingame-work of staffmembers!
Such a counter doesnt need to tell exact numbers - it would be enough to see for each realm seperately if there are a none [0], a few [1-5], some [6-15] or many [>15] players in New Frontiers.

Go Metty go Metty gogogo! :o)

@Rector this would be like /emain...

And if they really think of implementing this, they should to like 0-10,11-20,21-30 30++

No None! Otherwise never anybody tries to look when it is none!


Cooperation during a fight is ok I think (Like: one Realm adds the fighting realms go on the adding realm) but running together against one realm is in german you would say 'fragwürdig'

Duke

I can´t understand why Panachier has this problem.
Panachier are you builder, debeloper or you pay for play here? If your answer is no, you should close your mouth. All server had 2 hours very nace battle and you only complain about it.
This server is freeshard and all GMs spend their free time to give us entertainment, and if one GM use his privileges to give us more entertainment
all server should say THANKS.

And about alliance alb-mid only was one joke. Sorry hibs we will not repeat it

Thanks you a lot Nayru. Was very good idea and work. Was very very very fun.
Sorry for my bad english and sorry Panachier.


Eeil - Skald 50
Lahia- Shadowblade 50

Flamingfury wrote:Go on, erase your chars and /wrists, no one will miss you fricken crybaby.

can i feel insulted this time or is it another exception to the rules cause nayru agree with that?

Maybe if you were being a bit more constructive beyond only complaining and "feeling insulted" (I cannot help but laugh irl every time you write that ) people would take you more seriously.

If you cannot reply to constructive criticism with a sensible post, don't reply at all, simple as that.

Maybe change the Guild messages that tell if a enemy attacks a tower. Make them a server message so everyone in a realm knows # of players killed a scout in that tower. But only for Agramon towers, not for BG's. Currently if a guild is not online, then you wont know and will not respond. You may be playing around on a alt and never know but this will tell the whole realm of the event. This would be a fair and non crossrealming way to get defenders but there will be no more sneaking in at US times and taking towers solo anymore either.

Naryu thank you for trying to give some life in agramon RVR.

About mids and albs working toghether i dont mind because its more of a challange for us hibs.


Keep it up.

Flamingfury wrote:

panachier wrote:

Flamingfury wrote:Go on, erase your chars and /wrists, no one will miss you fricken crybaby.

can i feel insulted this time or is it another exception to the rules cause nayru agree with that?

Maybe if you were being a bit more constructive beyond only complaining and "feeling insulted" (I cannot help but laugh irl every time you write that Very Happy) people would take you more seriously.

Well it's the first time i agree with Panach^^
Firstly he didnt like situation where hibs were 2 fgs and others only 1 fg. Then came the "current player status info" and hibs brought more ppl cause they EXPECTED more enemy players to come. Of course it improved zerg rvr but at the same time ruined chance for EQUAL fights which was the reason for alb-mid cooperation. Think that's all what Panach wanted to say, if i'm wrong pls correct me.

And Flaming i dont have GM right (fortunately) but in my opinion you should get banned. I havent seen ANY constructive post from you. As you can see above you had also missed the point and your post WASNT a constructive criticism. You've focused only on blaming and laughing about Panach's behaviour what didnt add ANYTHING TO THE TOPIC. He has at least wrote something about situation in rvr, you DID NOT.

Paraphrasing your sentence: If you cannot write any post without criticising anyone, dont write at all, simple as that.

Wish you nice evening.