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Postby Holundermann » Jun 04, 2008 11:19

in fight he was not able to help at all. so with such experience, it would be nice that some guys spend more time in BGs to learn the bases of the game and how to play them char. i think agramon must stay a place for guys that have at least a bit skills.

and once you know how to play your char etc, for sure you wanna make him stronger with SC that you would already have in thidranki for sure. mot of the classes can build them SC with the money they got while leveling.

i think that having people in bgs is not a bad thing. i think we maybe need more people with some experience to teach the newbies some tips. BG should be the school for agramon.

but unfortunatly some people play in thidranki as they played in braemar... maybe cause there is really no challenge in BGs. and so you can't learn to play.

if you wanna bring more people in agramon the difference of skill between bgs and agramon should be smaller. but that's a problem from the players.


Panach just said it all, but i add my point of view now.
Actually the ppl spend enough time in bgs, but the problem with many of them is , that they just dont accept the tipps form the more experienced ones. Sure there are some exceptions , but the majority doesnt -want- to learn and thats why they wont get any invites in 50 rvr. Thats also why some ppl are still gimped in thidranki , its not because of the challened - which is actually very good sometimes , but because of their attitude. i often saw gimps , who thought they were best because they onehittet any grey casters in braemar or whatever...
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Postby Everwar » Jun 04, 2008 12:23

I think you guys swear too much looking for a solution. It's way easier.
A gimp will be always a gimp, dont matter if you tell how to play or teach him/her some basic rvr tactics.
A gimp will always prefer pve , gather 2000 seals and keep them in his house vault xD.

So.. And its the 2nd time i say it..., wacht to Sound of Inevitability guild, thats the solution to nowadays suxxor rvr in at lvl 50.
I met nice players at bg's, but they dissapeared... make a damm guild with the ppl you consider are good players in the bg's and go agra, instead of being always here crying and whinning about i-can-not-show-how-good-player-i-am.
And if you leveled an enchanter , when theres no one in rvr, or a friar, when nobody runs with one, then shut up and dont cry. And lvl a toon who is necessary in the current set up. !!!!!

P.D: Rp's reset 4 teh win, and i bet you guys current #1 guilds will be again best ones. Is just so easy like that, its just skills. But at least incommers players will have the chance of rvr in a fair situation.

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Postby salbei » Jun 04, 2008 12:56

...for two weeks :P

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Postby Holundermann » Jun 04, 2008 13:21

well i wouldnt mind a rp reset , to be honest. if really everyone statrs at 0 only with his lvl 50 char. but i can bet the top 50 players are going to cry. however uth wont do this also if some would appreciate it :>
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Postby Aragorn » Jun 04, 2008 15:47

Holunder you should give the people the tips in a more nicer way.. and i guess SOME will listen to you(or just read what you say)

btw lvl 50 rvr is the devil itself :>

na i´d just say bg= way more fun than running around for 2-4 hours in agramon with like 3-4incs and loggin out frustrated :P
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Postby Flamingfury » Jun 04, 2008 17:26

What draws people away from agramon is the attitude of some players who have been around for a long time, who think they grabbed god by the balls because they're high rr after playing for 3 years in perfect rvr group setups.

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Postby Holundermann » Jun 04, 2008 18:20

actually i made rr5 in about 1 and a half week being lvl 50. Dont know why you all a crying , about the high rrs all the time..
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Postby Flamingfury » Jun 04, 2008 18:37

Yeah but some people have lives/jobs and can't run in perfect setups all the time, some never do at all. Besides now it's not that hard to get rr5, since 49/4l2 is new bg cap, like I said before you chose to reply without reading, it's the old players.

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Postby Holundermann » Jun 04, 2008 19:05

And you dont understand what i really mean hm? If you cry about others rr, attitudes or whatever , why dont you gather some ppl you like and form a good group with em? Stop that ****** talking about others fault that other ruin rvr and bla. make your own group, avoid the leet no-add-high-rr ppls from your realm and everything is fine..
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Postby Flamingfury » Jun 04, 2008 20:46

*facepalm*

Ironic you would speak of crying about people ruining rvr, didn't you get banned for doing exactly that ? Kinda ruins your credibility on the subject mate.

By the way, you fail at reading comprehension.

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Postby Holundermann » Jun 05, 2008 11:57

no i didnt get banned for this , it was because i insulted some ppls on irc, and not really for flaming about rvr. and ironic or not ,whatever it interrest me at all. i just told you what i think and thats it.

by the way : learn german and maybe i'll get your point +doh+
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Postby CalvoHP » Jun 05, 2008 11:58

Maidrion wrote:I believe that the main reason don't participate in Agra RvR as much is the absence of 'lesser' groups. Most of the time you only encounter groups who are rather 'hardcore' players. They consist of people with good equipment (although this is lesser factor than on live, with no ToA and stuff on Uth) and are simply well trained in playing their class. For example the Almas de Cantaro group. They aren't that high RR but they all know how to play their class. They're skilled players and competitive. Same goes for the alb group with Rhiordd, Necator, etc.

On the other side you have people who take (fg) rvr differently. They take whoever is available, even if that means a non-perfect setup. The majority of the fights they will lose, be it because of their setup or just because they're not experienced enough. It's quite understandable that they don't want to bite the dust over and over again to finally win one fight and will search elsewhere. Like Rector said, battlegrounds are much more open to everyone and every playstyle.

How to solve this I don't really know. Ideas in the past like creating a BG for RR5+ just don't work. RvR would die a silent death. This again would lead to the discussion that DAoC isn't supposed to be about FG vs FG warfare. Maybe zerg vs zerg vs whatever would indeed be more appealing to a percentage of players on this server. But that's something players have to take into their own hands. You got killed by that high-tier group again? Assemble some more like-minded people and make your own RvR fun.


agree !!

even my old friends from almas de cantaro are owning us (hib) in rvr

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Postby panachier » Jun 05, 2008 12:00

Holundermann wrote:by the way : learn german and maybe i'll get your point +doh+


learning german just to chat on uthgard's server/forum i think that s a bit useless... but maybe it's more useful for people who live in eastern europe.. i don't know
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Postby vangonaj » Jun 05, 2008 13:13

One question. RvR is only for hight rr players? More people think that uhtgard is their server and other players can´t play RvR because they think that they are noobs.
I haven´t hihgt rr chars because i have real live and i can´t play 48h in one day.
Sorry for my bad english.

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Postby Corwinn » Jun 05, 2008 13:23

wth has eastern europe and learning german have to do wit anything in the world.
"As in,ur from easter europe man, u should KNOW some languages or ur useless or wha ?"
Im from eastern europe,i dont speak a work of german....
Just interested in what u ment there pana ....
On the subject,i thought about this along time and....
agra to me is just booring,tho i practicly play there everyday its still nuffing in the landscape and objects that emain was.
And NO i wouldnt wanna go back, its just how things are.
Atm its not bad, random hibs out,we random albs have allwayz been random, havent seen german ubergrp on albion for some time luckly^^
but ive seen some highrr skilled mids appear again,but its fine,the more the happyer i am^^
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