Sup,

Well i've just read all that stuff about high RR and the difficulties new 50's have to get fun in Agramon RvR.

Its absolutely true. And bg's population is a proof of this.

If you wanna have any chance of winning fights in Agramon you need a balanced grp ( 2x support, good mezz etc etc etc ). And i must admit that fighting vs a high RR grp is hard, and frustrating eventually , more even when you running a pickup grp you know has no winning chance:P.

The problem is that good druids/clerics/healers, good bards/sorcs etc are concentrated in 2 guilds maybe in each realm, and of course they will grp with the ppl they trust in.

Uthgard high RR toons have started with the server, just go herald, some of them have 50+ DR in HIB !!!, so its hard obtain their RR nowadays.

But i must admit that besides difficulty and frustration, there is a way of enjoy Agra rvr. Sound if Inevitability is a guild made of ppl who usually were in pick up grps and ( i guess ) their intention is to build up a decent rvr guild.

I played Usa pvp server for a while, and there high rr meant nothing. 1 day you killed a fg of exping players, and 2 weeks later they kicked your ass badly.

So socialize yourself guys, find good players in your realm, propose a rvr project and show you deserve a spot in a good rvr group.

Is very easy lvl an enchanter or a cabby, a friar or a warden, but maybe those arent the needed classes in Agramon or in a rvr guild.

Its impossible that from 100 players who are inthe bg's , 10 cant merge and create a good rvr guild. I cant believe it.

So stop whinning about RR , cuz is just the excuse lazy ppl use.

/clap for Sound of Inevitability

It's senseless to discuss this topic again as it won't help - the amount of equal topics is a proof for that. Fact is that something has to be changed to motivate the players of each realm to join Agramon. I know that something is already in progress and i'm realy counting on the xp zone bonus cause it will automatically pull more random groups and soloers in Agra-rvr.

I have a lvl 50 low RR char myself and it doesn't bother me but however, I have just more fun in BG's due to the current situation in Agra. What I experienced is that one group dies without a single kill and log. If we fight in Thidranki they are always enough kills for all to keep the motivation up to reinc. Agramon rvr is like a buisiness for a lot of players there who are upset if you make a fault. You rarely have a random inv in groups there like in BG's in which you log your char and have mostly instant inv message. Not the high RR is the problem but the attitude of some of those players, that everything has to be perfect. It's just paradoxal that they demand more players in Agramon but complain about add/zerg cause enemy will leave. They call people to Agramon but don't invite unexpirienced players. That are points you don't have to care about but it lowers the fun in Agramon and thatswhy i prefer BG's. It's kind of free for all, everybody can participate. I haven't heard once a complaint about my cave specced Shamy but it would be impossible to get an inv in Agramon as he's not perfect. I think this example shows exactly the difference between BG and Agramon.

Why does someone has to proove that he deserves a place in the group of elected RvR players? I think this is the cause for the frustration if you are not one of the "chosen" who can run with the group. I log my char to have the biggest amount of fun and I know that most of the people in the BG's have the same wish. The players of Agramon of course too, but i don't have the impression of it.

Well ever, in my eyes there is a huge problem wecant get over here.
In ur thoughts,if 10 people meet,make a desent rvr guild, use them fancy Vent and TS,scream @eachother, make some stupid tacs,its all nice and in time they will prolly own most or all grps they face,the pickup random grps that is, or even the rare evenmy guildgrps....but thats the point,this will give a situation where the enemys will re-oragnice and make such a good so called rvr guild aswell.
And then were back to old emain days, GdR AV BA MB and such ganking eachother and the rest of the newcomers or just people that arent everyday active and/or dont speak the uberguilds language are left out.
Even if they run a randomgrp they WILL lose.
Like it is atm,wit people usualy ending up wit random friends or alliance grps is so much better in my eyes, leaves more space for fun^^
Just my 42pennis and 2 cents^^

2 things

first: could you tell me the guild on albion in which one every nice sorcerer healer etc is in...? there is no more really activ guild on albion, only some guys here and there.

second: another difference between bg and agra is that in braemar you can kill a fg being only 2 . and so i think with such king of game it's not funny...

@ corwinn 42 pennis are realy to much... one is enough some girls would say 2 are better maybe but certainly not 42

@Pana:

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Order of Tempelritter ? : Wolke & Harris (not so good as UB but ok ).


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The United Blades : Corwinna

Dominique is half active sorc i think, there are more but cant remember names -_-;

shame cala is no longer playing his imba theurg rr7 from purga, i miss the 1 hit ko on him

I'm curious, on alb what classes are needed? I had been making a minstrel and thinking about a paladin, but I don't want to end up getting to 50 with a class that won't be invited to any rvr groups.

I think what happened yesterday was a quite good example for what happens when no Realm complains bout Zerg, and just bring more Forces at the Battlefield.and thats what the Lowies need.

Well maybe Albs was a bit underpopulated this evening, but they dont cared bout that. Thx Alb.

I guess this evening every single lvl44 no SC caster had loads of fun in Agra, i would look forward to see some more action like that. This means RvR to me whole Realms fighting each other at Primetime, not SGvSG. (even tho SG vs SG is okay, but all at it's time, doesn't make sense for the Realm when the expierienced grps force NME to leave Agra by just own them all,the whole realm benefits much more when everyone can take part in Agra.)

only problem which could probably be one is that the amount of RP we earned was a bit low, compared to the Frags we've done, maybe cuz of this it could be less interesting 4 experienced players in the future. Maybe a little Alignment in RP system could help.

CalvoHP wrote:shame cala is no longer playing his imba theurg rr7 from purga, i miss the 1 hit ko on him

wth
im somewhat sure uth was calamites first daoc server and prolly last
allso hed suck as theurg hahaha ^^

cala from purga is friskey not calamite