oh well, i better shut up.. bet you uber guy's are right... as usual you read half the post and start to flame, having no clue abouth whats in it cause you don't even read it, just look at it and flame on...

all i can say: the biggest fault staff made, id letting chars get realy high rr before the server was ready for em...

Is now server ready for high rr? Or we need to wait just a bit till all BGs Prostylers will gain their high rr?

Another funny question. Who of those "i want to have fun in BGs" players have at least 1 char with rr5+ ?! Or even rr4l8?

pls stop QQ for the "high rr groups"

u can do rvr in agramon with a char rr4 perfectly....

Cespx wrote:

Flamingfury wrote:

Cespx wrote:I remember running 10hours a day with my vw and the good result was ~15-20k rps.

Sure.

1 year 4 months.
Ingame 3 months 10 days.
checked 2 months ago.

That proves nothing really. 10 hours is a horrible exaggeration.

i have a stealther 6L and i have no fun with it in rvr...

i have a cleric 5L and i don't enjoy it...

i have 2 casters 4L and i enjoy it in agramon. we can't really say that 4L is high RR...

i really think that RR doesn't do a lot in group rvr. and when you talk about the incredibles high RR groups, often there are maybe 2 or 3 high RR in a group and that's enough to affraid some people.

there are people that are 5L+ and are still noobs and free RP (hey who pointed me..? :'( ) and there are people that are really good players even with low char.

some people don't wanna go agra cause they got killed... but they got killed cause the guys in front are better. What's wrong with that?

i know that it takes time to get some skill, to know how to play a class, to know who are the enemies and what is the best thing to do at a moment or another, to know when you have to kill the healer or the dammage dealer , etc...

all that, you should lurn it in bg... but at one time or another it would be nice to join real rvr in groups that already work well and so have really nice fights with challenge and become better fight after fight...

sure if you come with your uber thidranki group level 46-49 within nobody never gone in agra and you hope to have fun, i can bet you'll just leave.

but if you really wanna join rvr, you get 50, you get a real SC (cap everything, ablativ armor proc on all armor, charges dex/q, AF and some others maybe,...) you practised in thidranki and know the bases of daoc, if you really want and not just test it... i am sure that most of you could enjoy it.

on albion everything doesnt work nice everyday. often we have to play with "random" groups but day after day it is better. we manage to have more and more players that are better and better.

sometimes i know i can be rude with some people when i ask them to change them way to play and that can upset them (sry latte ^^). but i think it's needed to play better and not keep the way of thinking that exists in BGs that is "everybody do what he cans/wants and if we don't win, we'll bring more people"

so somebody that is coming from bg and reached agramon, accepts some "tips" from others players will be soon as good as the members of group and teach some tips to the next ones.

Only reason agra sucks is because of high RR self-proclaimed "pro" elitist assholes shouting "NO ADD", arranging 8v8 fights via irc and hating your guts because you're there ruining their RP farmfest (oh noes they might lose 100 RP because you're "adding"!), they refuse to group with people outside their own elitist butthole circle because they think they're too good or something, the list goes on. You'll never see any of this in any lower battleground. From a hibernian point of view

totally agree, i couldnt discribe the situation better ... also from the albion point of view...


arranged 8vs8 fights via irc ect.:

and thats why only this specially grp of players profit from agramon and make 300-400k rps per week.....
this sucks very bad

some people are so stupid here they say dont add because the other grp will leave then.. not because of loosing rp`s rp`s are wayne in this game? We often had this discussion in alb we just said pls dont add .. then we got flamed that we think we are the uba players ... we dont think so we just have another playstyle but some of those ****** assholes dont accept it so why should we play with them?!

of those ****** assholes dont accept

nice, i wonder about your very intelligent conversation here, and i wonder why the stuff dont take any action about your "some other" writestyle here...

Flamingfury wrote:Only reason agra sucks is because of high RR self-proclaimed "pro" elitist assholes shouting "NO ADD", arranging 8v8 fights via irc and hating your guts because you're there ruining their RP farmfest (oh noes they might lose 100 RP because you're "adding"!), they refuse to group with people outside their own elitist butthole circle because they think they're too good or something, the list goes on. You'll never see any of this in any lower battleground. From a hibernian point of view.

HAH! Couldn't agree more!

And one more thing - it's not 'bad' layout or 'high' rr's that are causing problems. It's the mentality of players: "If i don't have perfect group, SCed gear, ablatives on all armor pieces and bard in a group there is no point in going to agrammon!" And even if you get those guys in battlegrounds, after they die 1-2 times in a row it's like: "We dont stand a chance" , "I have to go help my guildie do thing xxx", "We have too many news in group", "Im only r4l2 if i was RR10 we could do something", or 'accidental' LD's - the list goes on. Well chobos if you don't want stuff like this to happen - try harder. You die? Try even harder. You died again? What was the reason? Youre playing 8v8 and youre dying it must be chobos in your group. ****** them. Ask someone to make new group. Go 16v8! "But man its really tiresome to invite all those players to join!" Yeah right... Spam broad and you'll get 15 tells in 0.1 nanoseconds. "But man it's still not fair to go 16v8!" You rather want your anus plugged by mids/hibs/albs? No? Well then please get over your false righteousnes and moralities and do some rp farming. "But man if yiou farm them too much they will log!" What, they will return leveling their low level chars in DF? Well take all towers and keeps, and then murder entire DF from lvl1 - 50. That will force atleast some of them to return to agra bg.

And the problem flamingfury already mentioned. Players in some righteous-self-proclaimed-better-then-thou-uber-pro guild that wont group with anyone except with their homosexual guildmates. Well excuse me for my choice of words - they can go ****** themselves.

Avelion wrote:

of those ****** assholes dont accept

nice, i wonder about your very intelligent conversation here, and i wonder why the stuff dont take any action about your "some other" writestyle here...

=(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( mimimi

Hehe,thats kinda funny Avelion,you insult alot of players,and when they react on the same base (flame kiddi style) you say that this is bad and staff should react.If the staff did,both you and flamingfury would have a temp Forum Ban by now,just as Malle.So prepare,maybe some GM will hear you and so what you want Oh just read,Nammoth aswell Would spare this Forum from a lot of QQ and flamethreads.

So please GMs,go ahead and do your job.

Hope there will be a time everyone will recognize that flame players out of agra and wine about no action there is kind of stupid.

On the one hand you want more action in Agramon, on the other hand you pushed them out.

What schould the newbies do with a 6 player group low RR, if the other low groups (the possible beatable enemeys) are bashed by the higher experienced FG and this FG flames them cause of adding?


If you are not a part of the main community you really have a lesser chance to get some fun in Agramon. If there is some inc ... there will be a higher group of your own realm telling you dont add.
And the enemeys you can beat are bashed out soon by this FG of you own realm.

I dont care about the situation but its really funny to read this thread and think "Will this help to get more people to Agramon?"

i could only cry about this opinions i have to read here by avelion, flamingfury, monty, etc.

do u think high rr is like winning a jackpot? like becoming high rr from one day to another?
the players which are high rr on this server spend a lot of time to get this, and its just unfair that u all complain about this. its the philosophy of mmorpgs that people spending more time getting advantages.

or do u cry on your classmates getting good grades while you get worse ones coz you didnt spend so much time learning the stuff necessary?

no comment on this retarded crying posts....

this makes me angry

I don't see where Flamingfury whined about players being high rr? You should read more carefully. What he said is that most of the high rr's from some guilds are acting all high and mighty. He wrote an example "players figthning 8v8 and shoting "NO ADD". What youre some kind of superstar or even a god to tell people what to do?

So agra fights should be 8v8 players? 16 players in high end bg? No sorry youre not part of our homosexual guild, you have no right to enter bg? Player mentality like this is what is ruining agramon. And whiners.

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Back to the topic: IMO agrammon should stay as it is. High end rvr is meant to be hard. You must do your best to get rp's, get max out of your character. You cant win vs high rr player ? Get a group. Get two groups. Go solo in morning hours.

If you expected that you will get 100k rps every 2 mintues by hitting i-win button. Well... Go level another char and rvr in braemar.

its all about claiming high rrs as scapegoats for your unsatsifaction in agramon.
its easier to blame just one group of ppl then to blame certain persons.

"all high rrs are assholes", "all high rrs arrange 8on8 fights and shuffle rps on each other"

this ****** me off. i am high rr, and i yawn on these generalized and narrow minded opinions.

sry for the bad words