silenced wrote:stop crying nixian, the theurg is a clothed walking onehit ... rupt it, mezz it, stun it, kill it !


if a theurg can release 10+ pets, then the enemy group is doing something VERY wrong ...

lol where did you see me cry m8?

im simply stating the reality that theurgs are very powerful?

in mid celerity is very powerful too

and in hib I admit we have classes that are too


this has always been fact and will always be.. no crying about it

Sorry i don't read and maybe someone said that before but ...

Testing on Live now is worthless because Live is TOA servers and MANY, MANY things are different since 1.80. I think Earth Pet was upgraded too.

On Uthgard casting Earth pet on caster class is enought to kill it. It's even worst - bard can't outrun of these pet's.

Wow o_0...i do not know what you do with Theurgs,but when i play gainst them they usually get at least 1 add so that they can cast pets.And if its an Earthspecced Theurg,get a tank and let it kill the pets with usually 1 hit.Ofc if Theurg is free your dead meat,but same goes for free supporters or any decent Nuker.And no i do NOT play alb I just don´t like those QQ threads that keep poping up about the same classes all the time.

Exactly.

Sure those pets will hit hard as hell but you can counter a Theurg quite easily.
Nearsight him, mezz him or just take him out once the sorc is dead.

AsNied wrote:
On Uthgard casting Earth pet on caster class is enought to kill it. It's even worst - bard can't outrun of these pet's.

only earth pet from level of spell 40+

mfassben wrote:Wow o_0...i do not know what you do with Theurgs,but when i play gainst them they usually get at least 1 add so that they can cast pets.And if its an Earthspecced Theurg,get a tank and let it kill the pets with usually 1 hit.Ofc if Theurg is free your dead meat,but same goes for free supporters or any decent Nuker.And no i do NOT play alb I just don´t like those QQ threads that keep poping up about the same classes all the time.

Thing is you judge them by the level that players of Uthgard play atm. That can change and I don't care that some people are unable to do anything when they have 1 rupter on them.

This is how you run theurg extend groups:

VID 1

VID 2

Now, you can say that Bossiney 8 mans weren't worth ****** and you would have totally handled 2 theurg groups, but it seriously doubt that.

omg ...another qq thread, now its the theurg....

dont know what problem you have with theurgs...?

for sure they can be powerful, sure they can kill a lot of enemies in bgs, but i never saw any really succesful theurg in 50+ rvr !

a theurg in an agramon rvr grp seems to me as a hib, like a waste of slot in that alb grp (better take a 2nd sorc) , its kinda free rp. cuz most theurgs are just able to spam earth pets and thats it ! easy to kill, no utility, most of the time bad played, a one button char like bd, very easy to get rid of.....(just draining DI, instants, prs and stuff...)

so, if you ever meet a real good played theurg (and thats for sure not an earthen one...) in rvr, come again and then you have a reason to qq, cause the list of OP QQ chars is pretty much too long !

btw. dont know why you think theurg is sooo powerful...
for sure pets deal pretty much too high damage, considered we play on a non-bb server, but its really kinda easy to deal with them, even with 5-6 pets (what means my grp was kinda sleeping) on me i dont have any problem with my drood, just kill em and thats it

theurg is fun and easy to play in bgs, but in my eyes a waste of utility in a well played alb grp here on uthgard.....(especially an earthen one !! )

P.S the main reason why there are so much theurgs, is that you can level them easily, i often saw theurgs´in df just spamming 2 earth pets per mob, pulling a whole room and then sitting down, cuz they got no aggro. remembering my live experience, you got instantly aggroed by the mob being hit from your pets, so you had to kite em....but here on uthgard its kinda easy living....

the main reason why there are so much theurgs, is that you can level them easily

in which dreamworld you live? theurg easy to level? rofl, first make a caster at uthgard to level 50, then u can make a serious post about that.
and its not much different, if u level a wizzie or a theurg, both is very hard to level solo, and it takes a long time ....

i often saw theurgs´in df just spamming 2 earth pets per mob, pulling a whole room and then sitting down, cuz they got no aggro. remembering my live experience, you got instantly aggroed by the mob being hit from your pets

rol number two ... you get only aggro, when pet die, and the theurg is in attackrange, ur live experience is very bad

for sure pets deal pretty much too high damage, considered we play on a non-bb server

on live they deal same dmg, and here on uthgard the dmg is still a little to LOW!
and dont forget, mythic dont had build theurg pets designed or optimized for a bb server...... they are designed to make this dmg at a NON BB server !

Avelion wrote:

the main reason why there are so much theurgs, is that you can level them easily

in which dreamworld you live? theurg easy to level? rofl, first make a caster at uthgard to level 50, then u can make a serious post about that.
and its not much different, if u level a wizzie or a theurg, both is very hard to level solo, and it takes a long time ....

He has a level 50 Mentalist actually.

Nice Vids,but they proof exactly nothing besides the fact that on live Casters are way more powerfull.I see a ****** of pets beeing spammed thanks to +powerpool.You will never ever have anything close to this amount here on Uth.Also the Castingspeed is WAY higher.I do see that this grp was really skilled, but i could aswell show you tank grps doing the same to grps with loop tactics and extension tactics.So what did this show to me again?

Greetz,
Player of Islana

well mentalist actualy is on of the easiest caster to lvl ^^ and no there are not much theurgs .. in bgs you have alot of every kind of char .. but look agra .. i know 2 theurgs playing ...

So much crying about theurgs...

Whats the big deal?

I hate more the BD than the theurg.
At least playing a theurg you need a certain amount of skill.

Give animist and necro!!!

dr_luecke wrote:a theurg in an agramon rvr grp seems to me as a hib, like a waste of slot in that alb grp (better take a 2nd sorc) , its kinda free rp. cuz most theurgs are just able to spam earth pets and thats it ! easy to kill, no utility, most of the time bad played, a one button char like bd, very easy to get rid of.....(just draining DI, instants, prs and stuff...)

so, if you ever meet a real good played theurg (and thats for sure not an earthen one...) in rvr, come again and then you have a reason to qq, cause the list of OP QQ chars is pretty much too long !

You have no idea of what a theurghist should do in rvr. Also, every theurghist I saw in agramon was pretty good (actually I saw just 2-3 of them )

mfassben wrote:Nice Vids,but they proof exactly nothing besides the fact that on live Casters are way more powerfull.I see a ****** of pets beeing spammed thanks to +powerpool.You will never ever have anything close to this amount here on Uth.Also the Castingspeed is WAY higher.I do see that this grp was really skilled, but i could aswell show you tank grps doing the same to grps with loop tactics and extension tactics.So what did this show to me again?

Greetz,
Player of Islana

Crack, pots, pom, serenity, raging power or even mcl. You can do this here. If theurgs were played to full potential it would probably be the strongest class on Uthgard because no other class can lock down people like that. Yet for many this game is so simple. Rupt it then one shot the gimp etc. In their scenarios the alb group goes afk after the theurg who doesn't know what MoC does gets out 3 pets. Then they spout more ****** that there is only 2 50 theurgs like it has anything to do with the power of the class. I never said this is what they do here. I never said nerf them to get them on their high horse but apparently reading is too much and it's much more convinient to troll around saying "omg QQ more".

didnt read that stupid post completly ... but ehm maybe u should just think what u invite in ur grp and stop playing stupid 5 zerker 2 healer 1 shaman grps ... just use ur caster too take a dark rm with ae nuke or rc rune ... but dont play it like a moron like most of the uth players do.. and the dmg is balanced its tested on live like blue said.. so u all should just play with ur brain and stop being retarded..