I took actions and changed access to BG's as recommended but made Thidranki level 49 max.

Access to DF is also changed to get more focus on Agramon.

Ok, it's your server, so you're free to ruin it any way you want, but still, let's sum it up:

In order to improve lv50 RvR, you make chages that pretty much kill what you already had.

Now in order to make lv50 RvR look not so bad anymore in comparision, you try your damn hardest to kill BG RvR too, because players still enjoyed that part of your game.

... is it just me, or does it sound a bit like bad comedy, no ?

Oh well, who knows, noone was able to tell that Agramon would be such a spectacular flop in advance either, so maybe we'll this time be surprised by how good this all will be for the game. I still can't help to see only problems here currently.

Lv30 was a bit high already for a lowlevel BG. It's a lot of leveling for the more casual player to do without any opportunity for RvR. Lv35 makes leveling another BG twink pretty much completely unreasonable, so less players will just level up BG twink after BG twink. Congratulations, mission acomplished, Uthgard has no lowlevel Battleground anymore. But do you really think someone who already thinks lv1-35 is too much, will rather do lv36-49 instead ?

And I see no reason to believe anyone who stopped leveling at 46 did so because 47-50 was too long, as doing lv1-46 again on a new char would probably take just as long. I think it has more to do with seeing no reason to turn 50. If you want to give an incentive to finish lv50 and then actually do some RvR too, raise the RP cap to 4l9. This will put anyone who caps out of Thid simply too close to the next milestone to not just go for it.

But maybe we can just wait and see. Maybe it will all work out somehow. In that case we can next try nerfing dragon drop rates and further reducing the exp rate. You never know what good will come from it.

All this news are a bit to quick for me ... BG 1-35, 36-43 and 44-49 ... damn, i play since 5-6 months and i have lot of char SCed for different BG, but now i have to all re craft, what's a waste of time and gold

And, why they don't have poll for that ?

bored :s

1-35 ...it doesn't take years to get there weia, and as you now gonna start to RvR 29-30 in braemar, you'll up to 35 quickly by yourself. Second, This will bring a lot of people that were wilton back to braemar... so if some leave for any kind of reasons, some will join for sure. (Yes I noticed already that change) level 33~ laready in braemar when I just roamed there, so it means they were wilton, and probably waiting there. As my 3 toons that were almost impossible to level in wilton so I got now 3 toons I'll enjoy to play back with.

Therefore, 43-49 is a good thing simply because they people will get some level to get 50 by killing in thid, and will not wait to get 50 with a level group, what is faster and MORE ENJOYABLE ^^ don'T tell me you would prefer an xp group as some good RvR action and level up while doing RPs. At least now, you can level by doing RvR, because don't tell me you were grouping some level 47 into your group in agramon just to help them reaching 50 or cause they were useful. normaly a level 47 isn't SC for most of people, and get lesser advantage. Btw this isn't the subject ^^

Another thing to think about is the 500% xp earned now in BGs by killing people. That's huge and fun, cause oyu can solo kill and level up quickly also in group... Only my point of view again. But I think this will have positive repercussions rather than some negative ones.

mazh

massivmampfer wrote:zomg...dont forget that you were 5 man group with cleri^^

btw @holz: Why you didn't run instead of doing a kamikaze ^^ this was logic I'd charge you + stun you were ****** me off too much xD ^^

Mazh wrote:1-35 ...it doesn't take years to get there weia, and as you now gonna start to RvR 29-30 in braemar, you'll up to 35 quickly by yourself.

Yes, but before I only leveled to lv22 and got the rest through RvR. That's 7 more levels now before I can reasonably participate. And those that always capped their chars before starting to RvR, will now have 5 more levels to do. In any case, that is a significant amount of additional time to spent. It remains to be seen if players are still comfortable with this, I know however that I'll discontinue several of my lowbie projects and start realmhopping towards the best exp-bonus for any further bg twinks.

Second, This will bring a lot of people that were wilton back to braemar... so if some leave for any kind of reasons, some will join for sure. (Yes I noticed already that change) level 33~ laready in braemar when I just roamed there, so it means they were wilton, and probably waiting there. As my 3 toons that were almost impossible to level in wilton so I got now 3 toons I'll enjoy to play back with.

Sadly, you still won't get to use Wilton chars in Braemar, as the rr cap hasn't changed.

Therefore, 43-49 is a good thing simply because they people will get some level to get 50 by killing in thid, and will not wait to get 50 with a level group, what is faster and MORE ENJOYABLE ^^ don'T tell me you would prefer an xp group as some good RvR action and level up while doing RPs. At least now, you can level by doing RvR, because don't tell me you were grouping some level 47 into your group in agramon just to help them reaching 50 or cause they were useful. normaly a level 47 isn't SC for most of people, and get lesser advantage. Btw this isn't the subject ^^

Sure, they will get to 50 in Thid, but if they stopped at lv46 before, they'll now stop at lv50, and level their next BG twink. If lv50 RvR was something they really wanted to do, doing lv47-50 wouldn't have been a problem at all, so the new cap doesn't really help. It doesn't hurt much either, it's just still not enough.

Another thing to think about is the 500% xp earned now in BGs by killing people. That's huge and fun, cause oyu can solo kill and level up quickly also in group... Only my point of view again. But I think this will have positive repercussions rather than some negative ones.

mazh

Honestly, I just hope you're right

yeah, I'm not here to fight you get true on some points, but I know alot of guy STUCK at level 47 and would still get to some fight in emain. Just can't level really cause it's boring.. and don't have a lot of free time. Now they will enjoy a bit of RvR while leveling That's an advantage at all no? ^^

Well, otherwise yes, I think the RR restriction would be nice to change ^^ but as I were 1L7 or 1L9 in wilton... I can still be in Braemar haha ^^

Btw, I stopped playing my main just because Agramon is so boring. And I'm far from being the only one. I don't like braemar 1-35 either...adding a new BG would solve THIS problem, but I already know your answers, so nevermind. I like thid 43-49 tho, cause 47-50 were really pain in the ass, you were not able to RvR...well, almost....

agramon is ok -> mainly problem, huge... otherwise they made a great job, motive your people to get there and from team, and you'll get your fun too, now the staff know it and will act in consequence, probably some change will be done in few, like removing or moving home keep to the bridge. This would be a great change too cause i'm not sure about the house route into a BG, hm, just sound strange to me ^^

And If I'd be blue I'd restrict braemar to15-35 only as 1-14 is pointless to come there. like live. And 2 bgs to slip fight people again? no way I think ^^

People forgot too fast this game isn't to make instant fight, you must work on your toon to get him ready fo fight in BGs, Farm, get level, and finally get your fun out there!

@ Blue - That is great news, i really think uthgard will be improoved with these changes. And dont change RR bg cap, it's good like it is. These wont affect lvl 50 rvr because:

@ the whiners - all that dont like the changes are BG junkies, that will always get bg chars and play there because high lvl rvr is too much for them. We can't get you out of braemar no matter what. You are not the target of the changes.

@ holz - do you think 200 rps more for killing one rr9 worth the effort for a low rr? i would put a bounty on your head who kills you gets 1000 rps more and 10 easter eggs, you are the highest rr on this server. And i DONT think that i ever met you solo and didnt tried to kill you.

Ladies, we are permanently working on Agramon and the issue "it takes to
long to get to Agramon" will be solved soon. Further infos will be given within
the next News.

Haldan

I pretty enjoyed the option to RvR in Thid and Emain starting form level 41.
With the new changes my theurg, which i love to play, is still 47/RR4 damned for Agramon.

Is there a chance u change the Thid cap to something like "49 & RR4"?

Greetz
Nes

ps. such a change would bring me 99% back to uthgard/albion xD

as usual lot of people to complain... but where are the happy players? i think it's a good idea.

breamar: it ll be harder to level a twink to 35 and stay there only for some hours of rvr and being kicked off braemar. maybe they will be less people SC and ready to kick all around.

wilton: people kicked out off braemar will join this bg to do some rvr i hope.

thid: it'll be easier to reach 50 when you ding 4L0 and wont stay with low level in NF for a long time (/hug paha).but i can tell you that i won't group with thidranki chars that wanna be able to stay in thid but still wanna play in agramon. they ll have to choose.

other thing that could be nice is a very low bg (1-10 maybe) to have a taste of rvr when you begin and so get some "fun" and some rp to get RAs for leveling but it should be very limited in RR. should be kicked after 30 or 40 kills. lets just hope that there are not people stupid enough to reroll twinks only to pwn there with them impressiv skill.

@nest your wishes are orders... thid is cap to 49 RR4 ^^. or maybe you means both and so get some level 48 RR6 in thid... that doesnt seems a good idea

I can only cheer and hold a big tumb up for the whole Uthgard team. And this for all the efforts they put in the server for getting it playble to most players.

they show the right attitude to us (the players) , so we should do the same to them !!!
i think the changes are realy gone make some good improvments so i will deffenitly give it a try.

Hey Nes, seems like your wish was granted:

Quote (Blue): http://www.uthgard.the-bart.org/modules ... highlight=

Braemar 1-35
Wilton 36-43
Thidranki 44-49

Die alten Realmrank-Caps bleiben bestehen. [end of quotation]


As a side-effect, Braemar insta-RvR 'issue' is more or less solved with those changes. Since we get much more RP killing lvl 30-35 than we did fighting lvl 25-30 chars, Braemar RR-cap will be reached very fast. Probably too fast to make the extended twink-leveltime worthwile. 'Mission accomplished', as Weia put it.

Greetings,

Perdi, Bevan, and so many more