Let me tell you what's the ideea... it's not fun for a high lvl high RR player to have xp bonus or fight for keeps that give bonuses, because most of us dont care about keeps or bonuses. I DONT like to run around with no purpose (because i dont care about keeps, i dont care about bonuses, i have all i need (lvl, crafters) just to play and fight). I just want to test my skills and have fun by fighting other players (players that are not camping top of towers or running around only by fg).
If i run around 30 mins only seeing a high RR fg in this time wasting charges (bps) and pots i dont feel like going on or logging a grp char. I dont have too much patience when it comes to RvR. I like to fight even if i die because it's challenging, IF i know i can re-inc and fight again soon.
Keep fight should be a side goal and not the main goal. The main goal is fight other players and have fun, not camp keeps and run around only with skald/bard/mini speed.

If you do a /who agramon, /who odin's etc you see 0 players. If you do /who you see 80 every realm. Where are they? Most are new players that are leveling or need your rvr strategy. But for example, why GDRW and lot of EdN players left? It's the mentality of the other players fault. If you kill a solo 3 times he will bring second player. Same with groups. I miss the times when the main goal was to kill some other player that i just wanted to fight with to test my skills (/military Shien). So why their mentality is this way? why they just want to win, no matter how. Why emain failed? Because most of this server's players are kids, that's why. Why they are kids? Because it's free. And they like a good powerfull char, no matter how. I dont find challenging to kill 4 players with a fg and it's boring. (it happened to me to spare a leveler because was no fun or challenge to kill him, and said to him on irc where are the best safe xp spots, blame me for this)

What would happen if all of us would be RR 13? if the fight wouldnt be for rps or keeps? just to have fun and test your skills in combat? HIgh rr players wont want that, because they want an advantage. RR is an advantage that they want keep. It's nice to kill in my personal oppinion an equal rr. Why a low RR player grp would fight with a high rr one? Because those are all that are left. BTW on live servers buffbots are allowed, rps gain is faster, 2 realms vs 1 IS allowed (yes i want to ally albs and kill the hibs, /salute albs, /point hibs).

The times when we just had time to recharge and get next fight are long gone, now we run around wasting charges and pots with no inc.

Maybe my post will help you see things different, from my PERSONAL view. If there are other oppinions others can post them. Thx for having patience to read my whole post if you did. I hope noone is offended by it, it's just my point of view.

Greets.

/agree and /worship runis

not sure what you are saying here?

mind making a list of things you would like changed for the idiots like me in here ?

(not saying your wrong or anything, i just like things cleared out when I have read such a long text i tend to forget points)

i see it this way, +/- 250 players on uth every night, 10% of those players just want one thing, rvr
they would like 8vs8 AND a chance to fo solo and kill solo players of other realms..

the other 90% are :
1- players, trying to grind up to 50,
those are mostly fairly new players, they haven't invested a lot of time, they just lvl a char to be able to fight in agra
2- players who have a lvl 50 char but just use it to farm, do dragon raids and go df if they get a chance, rest of the time they craft and go bg with twinks
3- players who take their time to lvl, they raise a crafter, they stay longer in bg cause they want to have the rp's to get ra's before they move on..

the number 1 type of players just lvl as fast as possible, mostly they are a bunch of friends comming from other servers, they know the game very well and have only one goal, go rvr...
i've seem loads of em, playing day after day, farming, leveling, making perfect templates, as soon as they get 50 or even sooner they go rvr, they get farmed as soon as they appear in agra (emain). they try over and over but they just can't compete with the 10% that is hungry for rvr, and above all, want everyone to know they are the best...

result: they leave....

the number 2 type of players left rvr too, for the same reasons, but they love the game, like the community an find other way's to have fun on their favorite server.. once again, the 10% that is whining abouth rvr situation caused that themselves...

the number 3 type of players will maybe go to agra one day, they will answer calls from realm mates to go and help, but they will never end up with the uber 10%... they will roll twinks to be able to go bg if there is any action there, they will do some rvr at high lvl, but they don't need it to have fun, and as soon as they see the other realm or realms are forming allmost unbeatable grp's they will log and go play another twink...

with all the changes made the last few months, the elite 10% is still unhappy, staff did all they could to aswer their needs, they even try to force ppl to go to agra, but no offence, type 1 leaves, type 2 is not interested to make the strongest even stronger, and i fear type 3 feels the same....


we get new ppl starting on uth every day, why do you think the server still has the same ammount of players as it had 6 months ago??
right, for every new one, there is another one who leaves...

sorry if i sound a bit hard here, but the server is beeing changed to please 10% of the community, resulting in 90% staying away for high end rvr due to the reasons i told...

why don't the staff make a bg for +rr6? and keep the rr6+ player out of agramon? i bet rvr in agra would be far better and loads of players would go back to rvr, meanwhile the higher rr's can compete with strong enemy's in a smaller bg, and wayt untill others get rr6 and be kicked out of agra...

if i see holtzie kill a fg of greens in df, camping the stairs i just think: i pity you, you got so strong you have to leach on poor low lvl's to feed your hunger...

so give that 10% of the community their own play ground, so they know if they meet another grp, it is full of high rr players and they can have fun....

nobody will prevent them from grinding another twink to be able to do low rvr, so they can choose ....

low rr players will start to enjoy rvr again, uth won't loose so many players, it will grow and in a few months, or maybe even a year a whole new generation of high lvl highly skilled players will join the elite to compete with em...

food for toughts, i think i will get flamed for this, but on the other hand, think twice, or even read twice, i don't want uth to fade away, i want it to grow, and this could be the way to do it...

players get kicked from brae as soon as they get rr2, even if they are not lvl 30 yet, we get kicked from wilton if we get too many rp's, same for thid..
why not kick players from agra if they reach rr5 or 6???

it would balance the whole game a lot more....

just think abouth it plz and don't post if you don't have anything usefull to say

as usual
just my 2 cents

as stated before im pro the nerf all players back to a max of RR5 :p but give those that are higher some kind of reward for getting there

@ monty

you really think you can do rvr in a special bg for RR6+ when there are even not 4 /realm online?

and in description of players... where am i? and all the others ones that are in rvr everyday?

@rr6+ bg alb will never get a fg

the only problem are the poorpoor zergers...

u have to zerg if u cant compete with holz+guild grps for example. they wont log..

I don't think a RR6 BG is the ideal solution, but I agree with the fact. Please answer how the hell this server isn't getting more player as there is new everyday?

Tell my why...I got disappointed when I finally got SCer and 50, and why I need to ask good player and active player to form at least good group if I wish to RvR. People that makes fun are active player like holz and friends that will never quit cause they know they will make at least 15k of RPs by killing some new albs attemping to get a try in agramon or again another group of our 8vs8 nice group but as alb has 2 alliances, I'd say must of alb are egoist sorry to tell you, they will even kick you out from a team to get their "perfect" team, and I'd not be a gentleman, I'd say ****** you, another thing to bring me to death of playing DAoC, cause I tell you the truth, I felt upset when I got booted from a team were I had my fun there, but how to blame, otherwise they make not fun at all and they would get wiped I guess with me in. I learnt also from my experience on Uthgard Albion: Never make an Wizzard you'll get bored and you'll not get teamed, same for armsman, depending if this is mclion or not. And even a friar, that fit only in certain type of battle, otherwise people prefer cleric. My 2 1st toon were Wizzard 50..Was like, ok.. My second I say: ok, I'll get a ama, so I can pwn the map with strong dmg, oups, no...low dps etc. good for zerg apparently. Now I made my merc.. good 50 scer all the kit, but so DULL..only the 5 same people doing RvR, otherwise I don't get teamed.

Tell me why I'm still on that game, on that server, xping 4 toons to get 50- SCer. To get more fun, because if I can't get into a team, I'll have at least another possbility, I say maybe.

To make fun actually on that server, RIGHT NOW, you need LOT of free time to get at least 1 friendly class/speeced/scer. What the heck...This mean a lot of farming, lot of work. And finally...getting my day boring waitng and hoping the staff move something. You bg is dull...And I already told you 3-4 times by some different ways, and friendly with friendly talks...made also some posts to have different opinions from people so you the staff reads it. You think agramon can work, I say, remove homekeep 1st, and get it smaller to an only BG. Not odin, emain, had's wall. This is so a pain. Or at least reduce it till we got horse in BGs etc.

lol, another thing...No possibility to make alliance with hib or mid? euhhhh... ok? Explain me why...I'd really hear your opinon on it. A fun thing of DAoC. I'll explain you: We face 3fg 3 days ago. Well, mid and alb get wiped...What we do? we leave. On that case, we would make an alliance and PLAY, say ourself YAY let's kick them a**. Because we never be albe to get a zerg form albs, just forget it as too much player left now, I'll not say why hm? you already know. And seriously, I just tell you I'd leave you server right now if I'd not be the TLK leader, and I'd come back in 5months - 1 years, to see how it is now. And I guess no change would happen so I'd say, no more DAoC for me, it's done.

Sorry, some people motive me everyday to stay, but I've to motive too much people out there to stay with us. What happen if people like them and me leave, your server will shut down, and just get empty with full of xper, which will be an PvE server, yay. I've the thought in my head this is it right now.

Sorry for this long post, I think now you get my real point. Otherwise I can say, good work btw staff, it just doesn't work, so hear your community

Even good old friends won't come if they are sure to get a good team...And I've to call them via MSN and still doesn't come often.

edit: What I'm doing from my time on Uthgard as I can't RvR 80% of time? bof bof, I level few toon when I see some groups, I just... hm.. run and wait afk in game... takl with people...Try also to fram gold but after doing or for 2 weeks I'm bored and ready to leave Uth, a chance I've some friend to get me some fun with, cause I won't really fight in Braemar lmao, when you know how fun are high BGs and fight there you won't know anything from low BGs.

Cordially,
Mazh

lol...the last days i only read holz holz holz. What do you want from me?^^

massivmampfer wrote:lol...the last days i only read holz holz holz. What do you want from me?^^

Taking a break? yeah i guess thats what they all want from you...

*sucht nach holzwürmern*

Well...thats the last thing i will do^^.A RR9 warden is not the end...its just the beginning. You all will be damned^^

Nah don't take a break, I love to spend 2 endu potions + 1 hast + 2 charge only to get you down and see you corps on the ground

I could make screenshots database and ask player to pay for it, holz's died on the ground, pay me 1p for each visit.

/smile ^^

This is just another whine thread. You all know my opinion but I'm not the only one in the staff who decides. We want to offer strategical options and also serve players that want to fight-die-fight-die fast.

It takes time to find the optimum setup AND it depends heavily on players. If lets say 50 players would constantly roam just in agramon you wouldnt have the problem to need always a perfect setup and you can get in fights very quickly.

The staff currently decided for a horse route between the home keep and the both agramon mile gates. That should get you quick into action even with homekeeps still there. Imo we remove all bonuses from home keeps and reduce the sense of these keeps to the port ability. If another realm really want to take the home keeps to get your realm angry they may do so but the motivation to do it will be rather low. So fights concentrate in Agramon mainly.

@Runis: We dont see keep fights as main goal. Keeps are points to meet enemies. You get under siege messages and can react. Certain meeting points where you find action are needed (maybe some less as we have now, and remember Old Emain mile gate in this regard). Even if nobody is interested in the keep but killing players. It works similar in BG's.

I want to remember that there is ongoing discussion in staff to improve our RvR. Just see and evaluate how it develops. And remember, if everyone stays in Agramon its way easier to find fights. Its just most of you are afraid to get wiped by a high RR FG so you dont stay there. We cant change that.

Blue