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Postby Craser » Apr 03, 2008 14:36

Nayru wrote:We will not close the battlegrounds. Instead of closing them, we are thinking of expanding to all battlegrounds on live for 2 reasons:
    * The levelranges of 1-30 and 31-40 are too big
    * The focus for RvR in case that there is no action in NF, has moved to Braemar during the past months/year. We want to route the community back to other places in NF or Darkness Falls and want to devalue the battlegrounds.

Of course there are good arguments against that plans, just like the size of the new maps. As a matter of facts, you can not enjoy RvR on Uthgard up to level ~25. Almost every leveler looks forward to becoming level 30 during all levels until 30. Braemar has become something like a mini endgame RvR. Aall levelranges should have the same chances for rvr instead of leveling all the time.

1-38 in Braemar? Why not 1-50? :roll:



i like this idea of decreasing the lvl ranges of bgs by having more bgs :)
and i like ideas which enable lvling by RvR
(perhaps even combine this with erasing "/xp off" command? --> one reason y wilton empty)

and another idea would be to increase the xp/rp bonus from lower bg to higher bg, so there is another motivation to become 50?
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Postby Maidrion » Apr 03, 2008 17:20

Kronos wrote:Ok, Nayru, you don't get my point or you just don't want to get it...

It's the old problem, you (the staff) only vindicate yourself - not even trying to open the mind. It's always the same...

And to be honest, i don't really care anymore. Continue the way you think is right. :)

Kronos


Actually I've seen numerous polls and other topics where the community could give their feedback. Apart from removing the XP-bonus, I'd say the staff has mostly done what the community wanted.

On live you had the TL-reports and stuff but in the end it was Mythic deciding what would come in the next patch unlike here on Uthgard. I can't remember any GOA/Mythic ever opening a poll somewhere on what should happen with the server.
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Postby nixian » Apr 03, 2008 17:26

finaly staff is doing something i asked for ages ago :)

ty /hug

much love now plz put in more xp bonus.. ! :p (hmm maybe the new BGs will help on this to, can actually lvl by rvr? nice)

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Postby DanGer666 » Apr 03, 2008 17:42

good idea!
Realm versus Realm means:
Everybody of some Realm, against everyone of the other Realms..
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Postby Nayru » Apr 03, 2008 17:49

Kronos wrote:And to be honest, i don't really care anymore. Continue the way you think is right.


You should think about what you want. You say you don't care, but then you post comments again. I try to explain what we're doing and as it seems, you didn't understand that (or I am writing in Chinese).

Craser wrote:(perhaps even combine this with erasing "/xp off" command? --> one reason y wilton empty)


/xpoff has been implemented on live servers after players started to jump off hills or let mobs kill them, to prevent of gaining a levelup to kick them out of a battleground. I would love to remove the command, it is absolutely weird. The whole rpg idea is to improve your character/abilities, so why should you want to turn your experience gain off?! Image

But it won't work, because those who want to do so, will kill themselves often and flood the event-chat with suicide messages. ;)

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Postby Elwin » Apr 03, 2008 17:52

Closing Wilton is stupid even if its empty its good place to pass lvl30-40 very fast so you got lvl 50 faster too :>
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Postby DanGer666 » Apr 03, 2008 18:51

nayru, due to /rp off, they wont be able to get any more rps on some point. so they will be kicked out or have to restart a new char. so no prob imho.
Realm versus Realm means:
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Postby Nayru » Apr 03, 2008 19:22

Sure, as long as the realmrank limit is also cut down.

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Postby Cespx » Apr 03, 2008 20:24

Maybe it's wrong but i advice any staff member (especially Nayru- sorry) to lvl up a char from 1 to 50 lvl. Our exp rate makes player stay in BGs. My friend lvls an enchanter (one of the fastest lvling class in this game) and needs 15+ hours to lvl up from 43 to 44. As i said in another topic you've removed xp bonus (yea true we've got 20% bonus in Thidranki...), you've made Sheeroe Hills impossible to lvl solo (another thread but nobody even tried to check if i'm right or not) and at last new rvr zone which is also hardly interesting.

Those things make players lvl twinks. That's simple. If i've a possibility to stay in Thidranki and own my enemies without problem i'll stay and forget our non-action rvr zone. I know new Agramon will come and also new BGs but it still gonna be easier to stop lvling at 46 not 50...

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Postby DanGer666 » Apr 03, 2008 21:14

nayru leveled enough chars on uth..thrust me.
Realm versus Realm means:
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Postby Duke » Apr 03, 2008 21:28

I had an Idea:

Close BGs for the realm which has no Keeps or Towers in Agramon. ;)

Would be maybe better than close bgs just like this

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Postby Kronos » Apr 03, 2008 22:00

Nayru wrote:
Kronos wrote:And to be honest, i don't really care anymore. Continue the way you think is right.


You should think about what you want. You say you don't care, but then you post comments again. I try to explain what we're doing and as it seems, you didn't understand that (or I am writing in Chinese).
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Well...it's a standoff...you don't get my points, i don't get yours. You are in a far better position, so i will leave it at that.

And about not posting comments...well, that was meant for the future (wasn't that hard to understand...).

Kronos

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Postby Craser » Apr 03, 2008 23:06

Nayru wrote:
Craser wrote:(perhaps even combine this with erasing "/xp off" command? --> one reason y wilton empty)


/xpoff has been implemented on live servers after players started to jump off hills or let mobs kill them, to prevent of gaining a levelup to kick them out of a battleground. I would love to remove the command, it is absolutely weird. The whole rpg idea is to improve your character/abilities, so why should you want to turn your experience gain off?! Image

But it won't work, because those who want to do so, will kill themselves often and flood the event-chat with suicide messages. ;)


so just disable the loss of xp caused by dieing against mobs or due falling .
not livelike, but this would take away any chance of staying in the bgs :twisted:
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Postby Emperor » Apr 04, 2008 00:19

Change it to Molvik.
Thid, Wilton and Braemar are the most similar BGs there are.
Molvik is a good map and towers make it different.

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