blues idea sound good to me.

If population grows (or ppl. become smarter hehe!) we could enlarge the rvr area to the actual state.

@salbei: No no 3 towers, 1 per realm was meant.

very funny, thats what i call daoc cs .... seems, like a few whining people had success , whining the staff down.
so i hope there build zerg only rvr on the future map.....
in any case i dont take consideration about adding with grps anymore.
i hope all others do this too....
this little map destroy whole rvr feeling and is a big step back......

Then better take that........ thats the taste of the whining people here :

http://uthgard.the-bart.org/modules.php ... 7132#57132



Greetz

Avelion wrote:Due the poll here, the rvr zone should look like this !!

Pwnzoruberhaxx0r map for all those whiners..





3 TKs only 1 Way for each realm to the battlefield... Battlefield is closed up with massive walls....
Very primitive drawing... but easy to understand....

Its too big? oh ok, we can make the battlefield a little smaller.....
oh... the way is to long??? hmmm lets think..... ah ok, we make teleporter from tk to battlefield!!!!

Oh sorry, i forgot we need a heal npc, but wtf, there is no place for it!!

Sorry for this sarcastic post, but think about it....

The staff make very good work to make RVR much better than before...
and whats the recognition???

Nothing, nada! The only thing is whining and flaming.....
but i say Thank you staff for this good work and for this new concept of RVR..
BUT ? oh sry there is no but

u meant that post?:D

Stormcrow wrote:I like the new RvR system, but the action is concentrate near the HomeKeeps with Zerg vs CampGroup, and this is not funny. Maybe a way to improve the fights in Agramon area would be move the HomeTowers there.

I just agree with storm and some.. Sorry I've posted already my idea on the other topic. But this is same as this, moving keep to the zone would improve the fun a lot.

Mazh wrote:

Stormcrow wrote:I like the new RvR system, but the action is concentrate near the HomeKeeps with Zerg vs CampGroup, and this is not funny. Maybe a way to improve the fights in Agramon area would be move the HomeTowers there.

I just agree with storm and some.. Sorry I've posted already my idea on the other topic. But this is same as this, moving keep to the zone would improve the fun a lot.

The only chance to place a keep in Agramon is putting it on the hill in the central land, but there is not enough space for walls. So you would have a keep without walls and some towers that are not even viewable on the warmap.

Here was a nice idea to take one tower of each home keep into agramon.

as many others, its my opinion too that it is a too large area to play 1,2 hours after work and finding some good fun.

i like the idea with argamon and the three tower near the gates. it sounds like a BG situation to me,... so heres my idea:

-Agramon 3 Tower "BG" to solve the DF problem, majority there means DF owning.There should be lower RP bonus and good XP bonus to prevent LVLgrp ganking in there, so the highlvl xp junkies would have their area back, they had once in emain.in addition to the xp bonus they have something to do beside xping,they can get another XP Area back,if they like to.and if a FG 50's has need on Legion,they cant go farm rp shortly while cruisesing farmspots.(the higher the lvlrange between the lower the RP/Kill?) BG entry is 41-50. Thidranki stay as it is.i like the RR cap.

- 1 of the other 2 "Homelands" could be the RP bonus zone where the tactics and strategic highRR's can roam around in a areasize they already know, and all the upcoming RP fanatics who want their RR5 ability asap. should be satisfied too due to the good bonus there. the earning 4 the keepraiding effort in this zone should be a higher RP bonus or something else...

i think our staff will do all to make our RVR interesting.

so i hope any1 can understand what ive tried to say, its late, and im tired but i wantet to spend my 2 cents.

Jin aka Schnuffel ehem. Dezibel

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when u realize this agramon only ******, then we have a situation which is worse than in emain and then there would be only 1 fg from each realm fighting in these "mini arenas". and this grps are high rr only.....
The only who can take advantage of this ,are the players, that actually whining. The other 90 % of this server are logging or making no rvr then....
no solofights, no smaller grps, no chance for players they not be able to build a grp.
now i must write it clearly:
when u change to agramon only, you build this server only for a handful of egoistic and whining (high rr) players .... this have nothing to do with daoc classic , this is a BIG step back.
You make the rvr only enjoyeble for high rr grps and 8vs8 freaks.
With this step you would ignore the whole community of other players, that enjoy the big map.
And u are wrong when you think there would be more players in "big RVR".
And you ignore the players, that are playing on this server how it is without whining.....
This is a classic freeshard? isnt it?
ATM im not secure about this...
sry for this follow german part:
Der Staff lässt sich von ein paar "alleswissenden" egoistischen Spielern auf sich rumtrampeln.
Normalerweise gibt der Staff die Richtung an und nicht irgendwelche Spieler, die meinen , den Server ausschließlich für ihre Interessen zu nutzen.
Ihr habt ein konzept ausgearbeitet... wieso bleibt ihr nicht dabei und läßt euch so schnell vom Weg abbringen?
Und das Ganze in eine vollkommen falsche Richtung.
Ihr ignoriert somit den Großteil derjenigen hier, die nicht so eine große Klappe und Weinpotential haben als die kleine "Randgruppe" die jeden Tag im irc rumflamed....
schade @ nayru ich dachte du würdest bisschen strenger das aktuelle Konzept verteidigen, das genau das richtige gewesen wäre nach emain...
Es ist zwar gut, wenn man die Interessen der Spieler berücksichtigt, jedoch nicht zu locker, wie das im Moment ist....
Im Grossen und Ganzen sollte es so sein, der staff gibt die richtung an .. wem es passt kann fun haben, wem es nicht passt, dem steht frei zu gehen .. ich bin mir sicher die paar Spieler die dann gegangen wären, wären zu verschmerzen gewesen, denn diese passen sowieso nicht auf uthgard.

sorry for the german part

let the flame begin

Greetz

77 votes on "to big", "please only agra", "back up emain" speak another language then your unrealistic, only 10% are the bad 8v8, pro rvr, uthgard community killing people, nonsense post grizz.
it seems like you have a personal disgrace on a bunch of other people who keep the rvr here primarily alive and you dont seem toy know whats going on in rvr, so it would be just kind of you to dont waste others time with your rose-tinted glasses opinion
thx alot

i think u better take ur concentration about the post and not on focus of single people like me...
drop ur rp tinted glasses and think not only about yourself.
i think you know nothing about my rvr experience her, so dont tell such crap.

77 votes on "to big", "please only agra", "back up emain" speak another language then your unrealistic, only 10% are the bad 8v8, pro rvr, uthgard community killing people, nonsense post grizz.

oh when u write about votes, i can remember at the first poll the most players votet "4zones""
and this were much bigger than the actual zone

thank u for reading, i dont write more atm , cause you are wasting MY time


thank you

That's not crap, and I think grizz have good arguments through his talks. Atm for me, alb side, you can face only high RR and die easily against 4 even with a fg of alb. What the matter, no fun.. all leave, some might not, and give like 10k to 15k of RPs easily per day. And what's about the fun into it, yes, defend castle is fun, but sometimes we'd get outside and do some kills. What's impossible for us atm or you're playing a stupid stealth class. What some of alb starting to do. Even with this stealth, no solo.. you face beef people and just die.

The problems is LOW RR with high RR..This actually kill the fun into the high BGs. I'll tell you how it is really. Okay.. I finally get SC, after some months on the server.. farmed hardly and yeah, gonna make some FUN. Well.. I'm arriving.. oh, I can't because guild groups. So I start my group.. hardly find a cleric.. oh lucky if he's 45+. Well, then, we get outside...get farmed by few hibs, mids. And you tell yourself: what the hell.. people disband, tell you again.. what to do against this ******? okay.. being high RR, oh, what the matter here? I can't get high RR if I don't do any kills. While they will be RR 12! I'll start to be RR5.

Okay, I'll play again in BGs when this problem will be solved.. or maybe when they will have so many people in the BGs that we'll have the possibility at least to make some kills and fun. Well... Yes, big Bgs.. but if all of you would do RvR if they would ALL know everyone would start RvRing I'm sure a lot of people would come, do I'm right?

Grehh, changing old or smaller, will not improve the real situation here. And seriously I don't know what you could do..only telling you what I'm living atm alb side with some of my friends and guild mates.. that's not foolding or whilling. Maybe I should start playing hib or mid to being mixed with experimented and having my fun again ^^ Almost everyone stay in the realm and doing PvE, only thid is "fun" and possible to win some fights.

Edit: I speak only about negative point of alb.. sure there is possitive ones, but I already told you in previous post.