they have worked fine so far..

and tbh, they where needed to make a good template for most of the chars,
i'm ok with the idea of an npc cleaning up the armor pieces, and even giving back some golds to redo them...

but so far there is no alternative for the bracer.. putting +16 heat on a overcharged armor is just impossible, so if we want the heat resist, we need to go down on other things....

and what abouth all the time it will take? i lost a full week of free time just to farm the bracers, it took me a full week of free time to overcharge my armor... an that's just me, maybe +100 lvl 50 players are affected by this change, that's 200 weeks of tree time lost...

4 years of albion playing time lost here... and no real alternative...

just some lousy golds ....

dunno naryu, i think a lot of players are realy ****** abouth this and will leave, if not for ever, at least for some time.... this is a real blow for albion, i hope you realise that, just when things start to go a bit better, when albion starts to try to get back in rvr, you nerf the whole albion community for a reason i don't realy understand...

and i'm not only talking abouth rvr here, dragon raid will be affected too, imagine 12% more damage from every breath gole takes to every alb trying to kill him...

maybe uth will be better off withouth those albs... just hibs and mids should work too...

i would love to get 1 answer from the staff..

what other drop did you guy's change this way before?? don't tell me it's the first time you find out a drop is wrong... i bet all the other "wrong" drops are still in use by players who got them before you found out...

maybe some gm's should try to play in albion so you find out how hard the game is getting... i am loyal to uth and alb for over two years now and it get harder every day... and see people leave every day, good friends, good players, every day i see them leave...

and i fear the following day's we will loose more then we ever lost before....

just makes me sad..

Well many time is gone for farming this items yes. But the alt of the Staff is a nice offer to fix that problem. see it positive so u can rebuilt ur SCs and change some done Failurs or misstakes on ur old SC.

iam glad with that.

monty wrote:what other drop did you guy's change this way before?? don't tell me it's the first time you find out a drop is wrong... i bet all the other "wrong" drops are still in use by players who got them before you found out...

I only know of one other item, a bracer in Albion. It was the "Energybender" Bracer from the Ellylls. It was implemented as ordinary drop, but it is a unique item. In order not to doom all templates, we switched the dropped items to non-tradable and non-dropable. The players who already had that bracer in their template were able to keep it, but not use it for other characters. In that case we usually should have removed the items, too.

It is not in our interest to doom players, but the bracer had the resistance with no legitimation. Mids and Hibs have the right to complain about that. Mythic implemented the classic items with their reasons.

In each realm there are items that do not fit for every class. In Albion it's a lack of good bracers, in Midgard there is a lack of good jewels and Hibernia has a lack of good rings.
If Midgard or Hibernia would have a bugged item, we would fix it excatly like we do it in Albion.

monty wrote:maybe some gm's should try to play in albion so you find out how hard the game is getting...

I have played in Albion, Midgard and Hibernia and know about the drop situation.

monty wrote:maybe some gm's should try to play in albion so you find out how hard the game is getting... i am loyal to uth and alb for over two years now and it get harder every day... and see people leave every day, good friends, good players, every day i see them leave...

Well, in fact I do play in Albion and maybe the bracer does make life even worse.

monty wrote:what other drop did you guy's change this way before?? don't tell me it's the first time you find out a drop is wrong... i bet all the other "wrong" drops are still in use by players who got them before you found out...

Short and clear: every drop we find which was created wrong, got and will get changed.

monty wrote:maybe uth will be better off withouth those albs... just hibs and mids should work too...

Now please stop writing sensless comments like that. Items even on live got nerfed and well, it is such a shame that a GM made this mistake by creating this bracer wrong isn't it? Yes, we should put him right onto the battlefield and throw stones on him because this human being did a mistake.

Everybody... it just an item. You now have the chance to renew your fully SC think about this chance, too. And I think it is a great favour we do for Albion.

there where no failiures on my template, but i can't get 16% heat resist on it as it is now, impossible to do, si even if i get back my MP armore, And the money to make new gems, there is no way in can cap everything as before..

so it's not a gift from the staff, it's a bag of plaster after they broke your leg...

oops, sorry, i killed your best friend, here is 10 euro to go to the pub and try to meet a new one...

we are talking abouth a full realm beeing told to redo their template with no alternative to get it as good as was...

so, amish, plz, if you made misstakes on your template, maybe you are glad you can change it for free, but i guess the rest of albion has spent weeks or months to get it right and they wont be pleased with what is happening here...

mh so the night when I and tedoc farmed nearly 20 hours long stupid kezz(getting drunk more and more^^) to get those braemer are gone for .. nothing .. So i can erase my armor to get need about 6 hours to get the sc crafted again yay ..

So i think i will leave it like it is ****** those 16% heat resist about .. vales are without those dealin op dmg too .. and most of the running heat nukers are gimped like hell.. so wayne.. <insulting removed>
But hm .. most of the albs didnt know them that tey shouldnt have +8% heat resist.. they used the Uthgard moras db to craft the sc and now yay build it up again or leave it and beat <insulting removed> mids and hibs without ..

hm after many Alb dragon raids got wiped by lags cause of server checks now the next disatvantage for alb is done

wayne alb is allready the realm with lower effectivness so lets give them more chances to play on their unskilled way to win just 1 fight

i am happy with it now.. we have even more challenge to win in emain .. not just because we took the weakest realm.. now we got the weaker equip too.. if we dont rebuild our sc`s by clicking stupid one 1 Macro for more than 2 hours ^^

> Watch your language!

ok,raise ur hands,all you people out there who had problems with their old sc. me .. no..by god..was well balanced and everything fine

on the bracer subject. so u changed all the bracer in killing the +heat% ? why dont u just update all the bracers ingame,who have never gotten the charge? and that on all bracers,if u think its unfair to have +%heat, i think its unfair,that we have to live with the failures of the worldbuilders. sure,it has to be fixed,but then fix all items who miss their charges atm too.

of which goldamount are we talking,that we get back by cleaning all armorparts?the minimum cost for sc-jewels?the maximum costs? x%more for every exploded item for overcharge that was nessecary even with kezbracer?

and,i think too,that other items have stayed the same,after their change..err..fix...if i remember correct,there was a itemchange in midgard some more months ago,and after that they all yelled that they want the old item,bc it was much better and payed lots of Platin for it..

on the last part..as i said,as i remember. i dont know which item that was neither i know the exact timeline. but i remember some people telling me about this.

happens not often.. but i fully agree to what danger said.. The items wich had no charges.. needed to be farmed again.. but the Bracers got killed mh ?

sorry kuxi, i won't say anything anymore...

you did play alb, and maybe other gm's did play alb...
but do you feel what's going on?
did you try to rvr in emain with the albs?
did you farm kez and other mobs for good stuff? for plats to buy MP stuff?
did you raise a spellcrafter to imbue and overcharge it?

how many times di you run out of tk, with the best grp you ever had, to be wiped as soon as mids got near?

this discussion is not just abouth that stupid bracer, it's just the whole albion community beeing demotivated once again cause hibs or mids whined abouth something...

you are right, the bracer was wrong, so you change it... point taken..

Monty don't get me wrong. i play this game since beta and I ran through a lot of changes during gameplay in Albion. I know what it is like to farm days or weeks to get the character becoming good. And yes, I also lost 5 MPs of plate armor by trying to overcap those parts and nearly bit of the edge of the table.

monty is right.. atm alb gets demotivated in every week ... so alb dragon raids getting wiped by server lags because of uploading things meanwhile they do the raid

Calin wrote:

inconsistence and breach of trust

The dimension of these bugfix contradicts to every past decision of this
type. Former bugfixes because of items with wrong stats haven’t had
influences on the complete database, but on the items droped in the
future. Because of these inconsistence you will loose the trust of the
(albion) community, if it isn’t happened right now. Many player will think
about their next bugreport twice, because it seems that the report will be
punished much harder than the buguse.

Completly agree with that. I am long time on Uthgard and saw many such bugfixes. Just an example is the Midgrad Str/Con charge.

All in all I don't have the time and nerves to play a PvM game. I already invested very much time to farm items and make my template. And now redo? For stupidly hitting mobs there are far better games to play...

For this reason, and many others too, I am saying good bye to Albion. I don't know how long, maybe I will return, we will see...

Thx to the Alb community, was a nice time together and wish you good luck. Maybe we see us again.

Regards
Het

@kuxi

i just would like to say, uth is not live... this server is doeing very well, but it's strong point is the few people supporting and motivating the community, i don't know abouth mid or hib, but i know a lot abouth albion, and i see poeple leaving the server atm, people that can't be replaced, people that where holding whole guilds together, people that are needed to do the dragon raids, very dear old friends just saying goodbye...

i'll see... if they don't come back in a few day's, i think i'll find me a nice young girl and give her all my daoc time... bet she will be more fun...

ps: Luv, just shut up

ty nayru for the npc , it s the better choice i think . ;)

could u please make the npc being able to rebuild a sc ? >.< because i dont want to waste my time again in crafting...