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Postby panachier » Jan 31, 2008 14:05

the topic about the question for the jonty's RA has been talked on german side. in the english section the only post from staff was blue's one answering about the qtd question.

why not just explain in place of leting people talk. and why close topic to prevent they talk again?

that'll increase the problems in place of to do the things more calm.

i suppose the staff members read the forum or post wouldnt be closed. maybe most of them things " this subject has already been talked and we got statement" . oki i don't talk about that but if it's clear for you it's not for the ones that don't speak english. i even didn't know that the RA was improved.

personnaly i don't care about jonty's RA is better that it should cause he is a good player and it's not that , that makes him killing me.

but my problem is to know only some bribe of what happens on uthgard
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Postby mfassben » Jan 31, 2008 14:42

There has been no more statement on this RA since Blue boosted it without having any evidence that it needs to be buffed...instead its beeing kept on a speed where it actually looks like the character is teleporting...this should be no flame,but its pretty unusual for this Server to just make a RA better because someone wants it to be better.
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Postby Musikus » Jan 31, 2008 15:05

mfassben wrote: just make a RA better because someone wants it to be better.


right.
and ignoring a problem that the community is not OK with that is not solving the problem that blue took party for eldritch´s just because a single eldrich felt his RR5-ability is too lame.

would be the same if i say 'my cabby´s RR5 ablitiys duration is too short with 1 minute..make it 20 minutes' ..
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Postby Sethor » Jan 31, 2008 15:27

Instead of argueing I'd simply discuss the RA. By now I haven't seen the
mentioned RA "in action", but as you describe the speed boost the chosen
speedboost is just wrong. Mythic always used predetermined values for
extra abilities and if you compare these values with the currently set value
for the Eld RR5 you mention that it's completely breaking the mold.

The description says: Arms Lenght - 10 second unbreakable burst of
extreme speed.
This means it is an escape RA. Even the hunters escape ability (speed burst)
only adds 195% speed on the highest level while the maximum speed boost
is +204% (minst/skald/bard speed5). For a class that has no speed enhancing
abilities such a speed boost IS extreme.

Conclusion: until there is no evidence showing that the Eld RR5 is faster than
skald/minstrel/bard speed5 I suggest to lower the value of this RR5 ability to
+204% which makes a very good escape speed.

-> eld is attacked by for example a skald. skalds combat timer is ON meaning
his speedsong will only work after 10sec. Eld uses RR5 and has 10sec to
escape/get out of melee range.


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Postby Yyrd » Jan 31, 2008 16:37

where did i put that lock butten?

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Postby panachier » Jan 31, 2008 18:38

no flame please... just an explication from staff.

if that topic begins to be just provocation it'll be closed too
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Postby PNG » Jan 31, 2008 22:41

Well
in several posts in the web is written, that the rr5 has a kind of warping effect (e.g. http://daoc-guide.4players.de/forums/archive/index.php/t-6382.html)
And this warping effect only appears with a speed higher than 204/205% :)
Nobody knows which is the right speed-value so i think blue's decision is ok that he set it up, because it is better to set a value you are not sure about than a false value. ;)


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Postby Murax » Jan 31, 2008 22:51

panachier wrote:the topic about the question for the jonty's RA has been talked on german side. in the english section the only post from staff was blue's one answering about the qtd question.


btw pana it was posted in the RvR Forum and this is international and not german and all Topics were posted in english, so where is your problem?



But I totally agree with the rest of your post!

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Postby Nayru » Jan 31, 2008 22:56

Musikus wrote:[...]blue took party for eldritch´s just because a single eldrich felt his RR5-ability is too lame.

would be the same if i say 'my cabby´s RR5 ablitiys duration is too short with 1 minute..make it 20 minutes' ..


I can ensure that Blue did not decide for the benefit of one player and i really dislike your allegation. We don't change classes and abilities because of rumors about something that someone spreads!

I did not close the other topic, but I can guess why it was closed: Because it went offtopic and the real topic of that thread was already solved. We prevent spam in order to keep the forum serious and overviewable for those, who are not willing to read nonsense.

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Postby Murax » Jan 31, 2008 23:08

Nayru wrote:I can ensure that Blue did not decide for the benefit of one player and i really dislike your allegation. We don't change classes and abilities because of rumors about something that someone spreads!


so what was the reason for the speed increase?

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Postby panachier » Feb 01, 2008 02:45

Murax wrote:
btw pana it was posted in the RvR Forum and this is international and not german and all Topics were posted in english, so where is your problem?



But I totally agree with the rest of your post!


first time i heard about eldricht RR5 increased was in english forum when the staff already changed the RA.

if nobody asked " why is jonty so fast?" nobody in english section would even know.



I did not close the other topic, but I can guess why it was closed: Because it went offtopic and the real topic of that thread was already solved. We prevent spam in order to keep the forum serious and overviewable for those, who are not willing to read nonsense.


yeah it was solved but we never heared about that, don't thing it is legitimate to ask for it?

just an answer would help a lot. so please tell to the non-german community why such decision has been taken
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Postby Thraxia » Feb 01, 2008 03:12

The Topic has been locked by me due to the increasing amount of Offtopic content and upcoming flames.

You are free to discuss the Eldritch RR5, but with more civilised manners than some showed in the last thread. It was Blue's decision to change it that way and as Nayru already stated he surely didn't do that without thinking it over.

As far as i know, he isn't in atm but i guess he'll post some kind of statement for sure after he returns.

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Postby mfassben » Feb 01, 2008 13:45

As i said before,i did not intend to flame ;)I was just wondering why this RA got buffed so extremly without any hard evidence given by Jonty.Usually Blue wants to see facts from Live Server or out of the Grabbag before anything gets changed.This time he just listened to Jonty and switched the RR5 from Speedvalue around 215% (thats how it is stated on DaoCpedia and some other sources as well if i remember right) to the insane amount of 300%.Thats what i do not understand...

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Postby Musikus » Feb 01, 2008 15:17

mfassben wrote:...Usually Blue wants to see facts from Live Server or out of the Grabbag before anything gets changed.This time he just listened to Jonty and switched the RR5 Speedvalue.... to the insane amount of 300%.Thats what i do not understand...
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Thats what noone understand.
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Postby Yyrd » Feb 01, 2008 16:04

im not flaming, im being sarcastic. i just point out the what is plain simple.

if the gm dont like a topic. if a topic goes a way they dont like. delete or lock it. theer very famous for this. even thuogh my comment dont make friend of the admins. im not one to kiss up for favors.


now my next sarcasism. note: it was a hib who locked the thread. sounds a little defensive if you ask me. bad taste there thraxia. (think nuetrailty)



btw, this is a english furom, stop making links to german threads as proof. nobody can read that stuff.

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