As I already said in german section I would prefer Leirvik as RvR Zone
It has a central keep, 3 NF towers and different from a NF-hig-RvR-Zone like emain no realm will have an advantage. to make keep fights more interesting keep should give you 2points for opening df and each tower 1point.
Why should that make rvr raids more interesting?
You can open DF in a shorter time and it will change the owner more often than before. This will of course support greykilling but if you want to have darkness falls your realm has to fight for it actively.
keep could give the owner a special bonus like a weak version of relic bonus. To prevent keep camping only RvR it might be possible to reuse a special tower feature. Some of you may remember old uthgard towers. You were able to tell the tower captain to destroy the keep wall/gate by trebuchet.
these trebuchets should only do a third or less of normal damage not to create an advantage for using automatic trebuchets instead of the normal ones. It should also be possible aim the same target with an automatic and a normal trebuchet, so that you'd have the possibility to camp the tower and wait, to run around to look for enemies while your trebuchet attacks the keep, too claim another tower or to camp with your normal trebuchet on open balltefield to destroy the keep faster

And for stealthers or solos: there are also some small passages in Leirvik which should be as easy to camp as actual mid tk

A normal BG would be boring only camping camping and more camping^^

I dont agree with Girank i wont see any BG for 50 RvR but if we get a BG for 50RvR then better Molvik this bG is more interesting as Leirvik. As far as i can remember this was the Most visited BG onLive sometimes we had ther 60 ppl Battlegroups with very nice fights.

Mfg

Having a bg as rvr zone might be better idea even because lag issues, since in bg's i have seen the lag is slightly smaller then in emain zone becase the size of the zone for instance...

Greetz

As far as i'am concerned i think old emain is more compatible with a Classic server...

Why don't put old emain, and switch some week with old odin, old hadrien ?

For a classic server it's not logic to have NF ....

I am still lvl 41 and not experienced the Uthgard lvl 50 rvr, but the idea of Nayru is not that bad. You see, as Luv stated there will be more "My Realm, My Frontier, my Keeps" feeling. Yes, you will get more peaceful xping too because of the large map.

About the few population: Agramon is psicologically seen as an 8vs8 area (it was like this when I played on Glastonbury) and people wil flock to the island making (I hope) nice incs.

Feel free to flame against me now =)

havent experienced alot of emain fighting BUT xping there SUCKS

thats why I thought of this (agramon layout)



bridges can be full of guards = no one can enter the portal keeps
lots of XP spots = lots of people 41+ xping out there = more action
epic monsters = in the midle = no advantage for realms
3 keeps = much to take when no action

I would love to try this haven't voted because i didn't know which one this would go under

and hm where to fight? ^^ to stand allways next to a keep isnt sounding so good..

nixian wrote:lots of XP spots = lots of people 41+ xping out there = more action
epic monsters = in the midle = no advantage for realms
3 keeps = much to take when no action

xping in bg as i noticed the first excuse for exping slow was that there is too much inc in emain. And lows are only giving exp instead of action.
much to take is really nice because if you're bored you will be happy to have the possibility of raiding keeps and keep fights are even interesting on a server where most fights are group vs group or zerg vs zerg where one zerg gets outnumbered and leaves rvr

I very like Nayrus suggestion, I already did when he mentioned it first time

You have a bigger RvR Zone, which lets room for FG, Small grp and solos.
solos or small grps doesnt fall over a fg all 3 minutes.

And why is emme having this small rvr population? Because no one want to enter emain with less then a fg, because its too small.

With Nayrus suggestions fg will roam around while solos and small grps can go other pathes and have a much better chance to find others.

For solos/stealthers there are lots of nice places to stay and wait for inc, bridges, valleys, at keeps etc.

And, for me, the biggest plus is that this is not a fast food rvr map.

I think its worth a try

but.. fast rvr = fast rps ^_^, Also - from what I see, most people don't like to solo. If they die once, they log and never return. Even most stealthers do this. Granted there are people who continue to come out, darkref,drazhar to name a few. But, the majority of people stop rvr'ing ocne they die solo.

nixian wrote:havent experienced alot of emain fighting BUT xping there SUCKS

thats why I thought of this (agramon layout)



bridges can be full of guards = no one can enter the portal keeps
lots of XP spots = lots of people 41+ xping out there = more action
epic monsters = in the midle = no advantage for realms
3 keeps = much to take when no action

I would love to try this haven't voted because i didn't know which one this would go under

And i would aslo :+)

old keeps, old emain, and old RAs. i agree that a classic server should not have any NF on it.

but then there should not be any si-classes also,no si zones,no legendary weapons, no tinderboxes..

I think that this server is great !
But if we need a new rvr zone, i prefer the nayru one (page 3 post 2 )
maybe we can use tinderbox on a big map like that no ?

hmm sorry been a bit inactive in this post and havent kept totaly up with it but true the 3 realm zones and agramon would be a great way to get more people to emain..

as many has pointed out is the fact that either you get more people or you log if you start loosing.. and thats sad (number of people able to come is limited)

would love to try both mine and Nayrus idea (but which keeps would be portal keeps?)