Last I hear it was Realm vs Realm? Don't recall it being 8vs8 or any variation of.

The problem here is growing into what they have on live. A bunch of groups who thing they are to leet an don't need or want others help. Personally tough...sh**. Its realm vs realm, not you vs them.

If its red, kill it. Someone wants to throw a trantrum, let them. They will get ******....they will log....then everyone else can enjoy their RVR without listening to them whine and carry on. Better for all IMO. If this game was designed to cater to the tweaked 8 man they would have instanced RVR similar to guildwars. News flash....its open to all.

Adding is a term designated by the selfish....its all for your realm, not for your group. Live with it...grow up.

@jadinfrost

i think you never did rvr.

if you add group and keep zerging , you won't enjoy rvr cause you won't have opponents. or maybe you love cruising in bg/emain to see the area.

with such way to play, youwon't get friends in your realms and in the other realms

So to panach if there are 2 fg mid and 1 alb, it's better if mids don't add, so 1 mid group always fights and the other fights just if the first mid group die. If mid groups never dies they can wait hours (but I think albs will quit sooner)

N.B.
Mid and Alb were casually chosen for the example

yeah in bg it's different cause you often fight in the main keep...

fights are never fair in BGs anyway.

i am talking about emain where you find group by cruising so it'll not be always the same group that will fight and got RPs

panachier wrote:yeah in bg it's different cause you often fight in the main keep...

fights are never fair in BGs anyway.

i am talking about emain where you find group by cruising so it'll not be always the same group that will fight and got RPs

I was talking about emain^ I prefer bg because there is no 8 vs 8, but just random rvr. It can be 1 vs x, zerg vs zerg, a lv 25 war vs a lv 29 druid, 3 lv 20 vs a lv 30, ecc...
I find it funnier than 8 vs 8

usually i try to keep myself to 8mans but thats because im a bard and usually finding another good bard and to have 2 good grps working together is like trying to find a luri as tall as a troll or firbolg... it's most likely imposible

much more common to get 1 good grp running, then the rest can add all they want for I care, I can't controle them

panachier wrote:@jadinfrost

i think you never did rvr.

if you add group and keep zerging , you won't enjoy rvr cause you won't have opponents. or maybe you love cruising in bg/emain to see the area.

with such way to play, youwon't get friends in your realms and in the other realms

I have spent plenty of time in RVR, maybe not on Uthgard but the 8vs8 debate isn't special to here....sorry.

My comments were in regards to emain...BG's are fun, but are not real RVR. Your dependence on 8vs8 RVR shouldn't be pulling from smaller/newer groups and players from enjoying the expeerience.

Dont assume cause an opinion varies from your own that clearly someone must be inexpeerienced in what you might call real rvr. If you think 8 mans are the only answer maybe you havn't RVR'ed.

hmm... i think we albs don't have to be ashamed to "zerg" cause a lot of people have a strange explanation of zerging...

if a balanced grp of mids or hibs can kill two random grp's of low rr albs, why wouldn't we try to win with more players?

we can't get high rr if we can't kill ennemy's, so plz, all go to emain, try to make good grp's, make a bg and invite all who is brave anough to come to emain, learn to play and assist, kill those perfect grps, over and over again plz, force them tho think different, force them to make bg too...

we can do it, as soon as we stop to log out , as soon as we unite...

we have the numbers, let's start using them, other realms will adapt to our way of fighting, don't get used to thei'r way of fighting, albion can't win that way

what happens them when all albs get RR7 by running in zergs and mids/hibs doesnt have the numbers to do anything about zergs, what should we do to ballance then?

sorry but ive seen it happen on live, and simply not funny being half the numbers and half the RR of the zergers

but true stand together albs, you are a fun fight

nixian wrote:what happens them when all albs get RR7 by running in zergs and mids/hibs doesnt have the numbers to do anything about zergs, what should we do to ballance then?

Then hibs and mids will come on the forum and ask for more players. Balance will come this way.

I've stopped playing my hib lvl 50 char because you can't fit in current Emain's RVR if you don't have a perfect group, and hibs don't zerg anymore (as well as mids?).

If everybody zergs, then

1) you have more players on the server because RVR might become a lot more fun

2) the question about adding becomes irrelevant (have you already tried to count the number of mids/albs/hibs fighting as zergs before choosing wether to join the fight or not? )

I give my hibernian vote to alb zergs! For a better future RVR!

zerg is every time a problem...

I really dont like zerg rvr on uthgard.. because u think its a large epic battle.. but it isn on uthgard.. on both realms are 10 tanks assisting on one target -> target instant down.. F8 (next target) next target instant down.. yay reall funny... the winner is who got the enemy assistleader down ^^

so no fun for me dont like this way to play

thats an advantage of 8vs8 u cant instant kill a target .. debuff assist is rupt able and tanks are cc able or against tank at`s the target is healable..

so after is got in my head that the difference between zerg vs zerg and 8vs8 (or other balanced fight between 2 grps with maybe less then 8 players) is luck cause of pressing in the right moment F8 i made my choice what sort of rvr i prefer

malle wrote:zerg is every time a problem...

I really dont like zerg rvr on uthgard.. because u think its a large epic battle.. but it isn on uthgard.. on both realms are 10 tanks assisting on one target -> target instant down.. F8 (next target) next target instant down.. yay reall funny... the winner is who got the enemy assistleader down ^^

so no fun for me dont like this way to play

I've seen 8vs8 battles where you got 3-4 savages on your back, all assisting. I only took 3 seconds to kill each member of my fg. (battle done in 30s)

It doesn't need zergs to see such insta death conditions.

no comment ...

Constructive criticism on my answer would be much more appreciated than a "no comment".

What I meant with my previous post was: fearing zergs because of instant death is not a valid argument because you can be as easily killed by a good 8-man group.

malle wrote:zerg is every time a problem...

I really dont like zerg rvr on uthgard.. because u think its a large epic battle.. but it isn on uthgard.. on both realms are 10 tanks assisting on one target -> target instant down.. F8 (next target) next target instant down.. yay reall funny... the winner is who got the enemy assistleader down ^^

Why do you think there are cc, sos, 2000 range heals, charge is a speed3, ecc... if you don't use them to save your realm mates?
Also, I want to see who wins between zerg who kill with f8 and zerg who kill/rupt healers and casters

In my opinion, balanced fights simply don't exist.
What are balanced fights? 8 vs 8? If there are 8 armsman vs a good setup is still balanced? And if there are 8 rr10 vs 8 rr3 is it still balanced?
Even if you get 2 fg of same rr, there will be differences with classes.
If you want a balanced fight, take 2 fgs of same realm with same equip, same ra and have fun.
Unluckily, mythic made different classes for each realm so they don't agree with you