albion is really the weak realm...

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Postby panachier » Dec 16, 2007 04:50

when i look at the herald i see

players 1-80 the only one active alb that is not stealther is darth :S

so it's very difficult to get a nice rvr group...

i think it would be more fair play if some good players would join alb and accept the challenge...
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Postby Girak » Dec 16, 2007 06:39

maybe you should wait a little... atm it's christmas time and it depends on the people who were active before. Many people have no time, others no rl^^

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Postby Evlesoa » Dec 16, 2007 06:45

Albion weak?! Dude... my friend, you don't know how to make good characters.

Alb Scenario #1
Alb Player 1: I hate this, we need players
-Albion has captured Braemar-
Alb Player 2: yeah we need more, we are so weak
-Albion captures crimthain-
Alb Player 1: We are so weak OMG!! Jesus, plz fix us!
Alb Player 2: Ok lets go to braemar
-Albion Captures Darkness Falls-
-Albion controls Darkness Falls for 4 consecutive days-
Alb Player 2 just killed 2 Hibernian Players
Alb Player 1 ****** how much he sucks
Hibernian 2 player group decide to quit
Midgard enters braemar
-Full Group of 14 alb slaughter 5 Midgards-
Albion Players: God we need more players!!

Basically, i don't think i need to explain...

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Postby Salidor » Dec 16, 2007 06:59

I think he's thinkin on the lines of Emain not braemar :+)

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Postby DanGer666 » Dec 16, 2007 07:57

evlesoa,whoever u are,it seems ur not uthgard related :p most of the mids n hibs who cry,that alb sucks @ zerging etc, never tried to build a lv 50 albgrp.. mostly they stand with their chicken-attitude.."nono..ive got a char,i dont need to try something else".. so its worthless if anybody of mid or hib,who never played alb here, says anything @ this topic. would be the same,if my 4 year old nephew speaks about quantum-physics.

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Postby Seale » Dec 16, 2007 12:47

problem of albion is ppl playing in it :


- few sorcerer (mainly only 3 online : Nestrel Dominique (in jail atm) and salemus :

- without sorcerer the only other viable mezzer of albion is the theurgist air, and we have really few air specced (minstrel have mezz at 5 sec cast time)

- no cabby in rvr, cabalist is used only for pve = no nearsight in alb, no good debuffer of spirit-body-energy

- wizzy of albion specced fire or earth > no pbaoe ice specced cuz there isnt any serious rvr guild atm (probably only AV but they have no wiz anyway)

ok for caster let's go to healer problem :

in albion we have Cleric (main healer) Friar (2ndary healer) [we dont have heretic so we lack of healer class] into this we have more the problem of Friar without proc on staff > no support healing and he's knowed issue he sucks for heal since it's a melee class, so he do dps OR it heal, the only different case is when he use hot (specced high in rej, so lack in buff or dps) and it's a near useless hot (the only viable hot of friar is 44 one but you need to leave away your spec staff), all other realm have more of 1 only healer class type viable (we dont have it for the choise of 1.80 patch, and no cata class :) )

let's finish with tank problem :

well here we shine as albion : we will never mezz, and probably our cleric will explode after 2 second but..... DONT MIND, we have many reaver - paladin (probably the 2 more played class in alb) with some mercenary and 1 or 2 armsman in rvr.... but imho a realm dont survive only with tank or light tank

in a Group rvr situation, albion can win atm only if : A) a sorc is logged in and we have the only viable healing class online (cleric) B) by zerging and outnumbering the other realm

p.s. oh yeah i forgot, our lvl 50 player are usually pve user or ppl doing too many and useless twink :)

my 2 cent

for that ppl, after some time, exp chara in other realm to see how go the rvr situation from "the enemy view" :roll:

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Postby Andrus » Dec 16, 2007 12:52

...and a class logged in who makes dmg... but who does lol^^
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Postby panachier » Dec 16, 2007 12:57

no agressivity please...

i just wanted to point the fact that at the moment it's not possible to do fair group on alb cause there are not high rank in game.

i just asked if some good players from the others realms that would try the experience to play on alb and try to build some good groups.

i see more and more people that leave albion to go on other realms or leave daoc cause they fed up with the difficulty to find good chars/players to go versius the other realms.

i say thanks to the ones that at least tried the experience but it would be nice that other ones would follow.

@evleossa i dislike this way to flame and de out of subject.

@girak who would we have to wait for...? there doesnt exist any alb hight rank except darth.
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Postby Demiurgo » Dec 16, 2007 13:06

@ Panach: Instead of asking people to reroll on your realm, why don't you create a good guild/rvr group?
To have a "skilled" group you just need 8-10 people who like doing rvr, decide what classes and setup do, level to 50, make a good equip and then practice a bit. None was born as good player, but if you use always the same setup and play always togheter, you will soon learn enough.
Also i suggest you to make a guild forum and exchange your msn adresses, so you will have more harmony with others.
If you cry about low dmg of meele alb classes, try a caster alb group (many many people say it is damned strong) with 3 clerics + 1 sorc + 1 cab + 1 theurg + 1 body sorc + 1 paladin/minstrel

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Postby T-Man » Dec 16, 2007 13:09

I don't think panachier is referring to any short-time situation. Of course, there will be days when there are lots of Albion players online (maybe even in Emain) and will own keeps/DF.

The topic, however, is on the long-time situation - and I think the numbers in the herald (7/21/22 in 50) reflecting the full Uthgard history speak for themselves.

For the reasons...well, I think there are many often brought up in one thread or the other:
- Albion being the "beginners' realm", i.e. many new player will start there but leave the game or switch to another realm before even getting to lvl 50.
- Lack of interest in RvR.
- Problems in finding a successful group set-up.
- Lack of (actively played) support characters.
- Social manners of some players.
- ...
(You can probably name some more.)

OK, we've already had players switch their realm to come to Albion. I think the last attempt was Inquisition? The result (afaIk): half of the guild quit the server and the rest went back to Midgard.
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Postby Seale » Dec 16, 2007 13:22

to add in the healing problem list : we have not the 1.77 update patch with hot for friar 3 sec cast time but still at 4 sec and not back style for holy staff... this will change something ? dunno, probably some friar will spec heal just to give it a try :wink:

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Postby Holundermann » Dec 16, 2007 13:45

Seale that would be a Friar-only help. I dont see Any Warden/Bard or shaman upgrade and so it seems a bit strange to me(normally there would be a general change of supporter heallines?)
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Postby Seale » Dec 16, 2007 13:48

explaination is easy holundermann, as a hib you have 4 healing class > bard druid warden mentalist (yeah i know many mentalist spec in light but, ehy if they spec wrong isnt my fault), and mid have healer shaman who dont have problem to spec rej :)

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Postby Holundermann » Dec 16, 2007 14:14

Well let me think: there are no mentalists in rvr groups; bard has to mezz,demezz,ruppt and has only about 16 healspecc, and always at so also no time for heal; warden also has only about ~20 healspecc and has to attack and not to heal.

So where is the -big- advantage?
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Postby Girak » Dec 16, 2007 14:17

Seale: http://uthgard.the-bart.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5432

I have to agree with Demiurgo. Albion needs more organization than other realms because of less flexible setups. On Live Servers you could always find someone to fill the empty slots in group. First because of high numbers of players, later the reason became that it's easier to exp... Here it's your problem not ours :P

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