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Allyk123
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Postby Allyk123 » Aug 05, 2023 10:18

fremster wrote:
Allyk123 wrote:


I know Khaox/Aok very well and i've never seen anything to suggest he'd be double account farming. One of the nicest people i play the game with as a matter of fact. And very honest.

But as my post says, you've thrown no evidence here and you've all but contradicted your own argument by admitting that GM's are not caring.

As far as "cheating" goes.... who in Hib/Mid do you suspect uses radar?



You do know he got banned previously for "multiboxing"? Well that was the public reason on the street, in reality he was also RP farming himself then.

At this stage, I'd encourge the evidence to be made public and let the people decide. There is clearly no justice system here ^^


I agree. But if people are going to defame and slander people by name then they should have solid evidence to back it up. If a game GM has already batted away claims then that says it all to me.

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Postby fremster » Aug 05, 2023 10:21

Allyk123 wrote:
I agree. But if people are going to defame and slander people by name then they should have solid evidence to back it up. If a game GM has already batted away claims then that says it all to me.


Well, perhaps he's the whale keeping the server alive.

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Postby Allyk123 » Aug 05, 2023 10:31

fremster wrote:
Allyk123 wrote:
I agree. But if people are going to defame and slander people by name then they should have solid evidence to back it up. If a game GM has already batted away claims then that says it all to me.


Well, perhaps he's the whale keeping the server alive.


I'm not going to post here his play style. His business is his own.... however having had the benefit of playing with him for a number of years i've never seen anything which made me suspect he was 'rp farming'.

I'm more than happy to put my neck on the line here and if someone wants to send evidence then i'll gladly take all of this back but until then, innocent until proven guilty :hammer:

As far as the other guy goes, i have never seen him play. Never seen anyone complain about him when i've played my Hib and only one person seems to hold this claim. One which a GM has apparently rubbished.

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Postby Valfar » Aug 05, 2023 11:04

Allyk123 wrote:
fremster wrote:
Allyk123 wrote:
I agree. But if people are going to defame and slander people by name then they should have solid evidence to back it up. If a game GM has already batted away claims then that says it all to me.


Well, perhaps he's the whale keeping the server alive.


I'm not going to post here his play style. His business is his own.... however having had the benefit of playing with him for a number of years i've never seen anything which made me suspect he was 'rp farming'.

I'm more than happy to put my neck on the line here and if someone wants to send evidence then i'll gladly take all of this back but until then, innocent until proven guilty :hammer:

As far as the other guy goes, i have never seen him play. Never seen anyone complain about him when i've played my Hib and only one person seems to hold this claim. One which a GM has apparently rubbished.


Aok/Khaox is a cheater, period. On the days I recorded all those fights (as much as I could cause I'm not online all day), they gave most of the RPS to a character named Hanko...maybe a friend of his, a mysterious guy who has 30ish k total RPS from 30ish kills and nobody has ever seen him in RvR lol.

Yeah, socially he may be a nice guy or whatever, that's ok. Big deal, I'm sure some serial killers and drug dealers have in their life helped old ladies across the street or took out their landlady's garbage or were cool people to hang out with, that doesn't change the reality of their actions. I am not comparing him to those types of people, I'm just giving you an extreme example to paint a picture.

It's your choice to be naive, but everyone knows this guy is a cheater. The fact that he was already once banned for the same thing says a lot as well. People don't change habits. That Mgda guy cheated on uth1 and uth2, got banned on almost every server he ever played on when it comes to free shards. I remember on uth1 he was swearing to us he's not cheating and that it's only lag, meanwhile I'm charging on my zerker and I'm on 80% hp, he's on his savage on 15% hp and he runs faster than me lol. Guy had speed hacks and all sorts of stuff, he never changed no matter how many times he got banned. One time he got drunk or was in a good mood and admitted to cheating on discord, funny stuff.


I would love for a dev to take 5 mins to check all the RvR deaths of characters Olsen/Tamo/Saman/Wolkof/Kurs, I would not be surprised if 80-90% of their total RvR deaths came from Khaox and his alts xD. People saw them being killed by him in dodens for more than a year before they switched to RP farming in the BGs.

Btw, are you Hanko :D?
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Postby Skullbones » Aug 05, 2023 15:54

I agree that Khaox / Aok is a nice person. I've played on alb in the same guild as him (Guardians of Light) and he's always been nice and great to play with. When grouping with him I never once came across anything that suggested he was cross realming.

I came back to uthgard recently and upon my return the common consensus from those I played with on Mid/Hib was that Khaox had been seen farming himself in the battleground and definitely has multiple accounts.

I can speculate how it is interesting that khaox/aok is there on all the keeptakes taking back level 1 keeps that have level 6 doors, all upgraded by this Oriordan guy. I've seen Oriordan upgrade doors so I know that part is true. He didn't communicate, he just sat there upgrading doors at Surs. He doesn't RVR, it's pretty clear he's someone's character on alb, but it is impossible to say who. Most suspect Oriordan is Khaox, but no one knows for certain.

The fact that Khaox' other infil has been banned for cross realming does say a lot. Khaox is the infil with the most RPs on the server. Up until a couple weeks ago, his banned alt (Yurif) had the second most rps of any infil. Now it has the third most since Cai passed him.

The only evidence I've personally seen since my return that suggests Khaox is farming himself comes a few days ago.

On Wednesday, Khaox made 10592 RPs according to daoc.scheffel. I found this to be interesting because Wednesday was the day after romu zerg and there was minimal RVR activity and keeptakes that day. Khaox was playing Aok for the romu zerg, so the RPs weren't from that. The RPs from late in the day on Tuesday (NA time) show up as rps gained on Wednesday, I'm not sure when the cutoff time is exactly but it is worth mentioning.

The most RPs any hib guild made on Wednesday was 3780. I believe this was from taking keeps back after the Romu zerg ended. This low RP count supports the fact that minimal RVR happened on Wednesday.

But Khaox is on alb, so lets look at the Alb rps for Wednesday. Looking at the top 10 RP making guilds on albion this week, only one guild made RPs on Wednesday. That guild is Guardians of Light. No other guild made RPs on Wednesday, because there was no action that day.

Guardians of light made 20809 RPs on Wednesday.

Khaox made 10592
Aok (his alt) made 3627
Mbo made 3615 (this makes sense, he solos a lot and gets kills).
Mbux made 1988
Ahrieh made 987

This totals 20809 RPs.

So I pose the question. Where did Khaox's 10592 rps that day come from? Did he find a ton of xpers that day? Did he find someone that kept horsing out and dying a lot that wasn't him? Or was he just farming himself that day? All the stats for this week are on daoc.scheffel, so go look for yourself.

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Postby Valfar » Aug 05, 2023 16:52

He's at it again, several kills from Khaox on mid chars nobody has ever seen anywhere lol, including a guildless 1L1 lvl 50 zerk xD.
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Postby Nakja » Aug 05, 2023 17:20

Be happy when someone upgrade doors to bring players into RvR to fight..
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Postby Allyk123 » Aug 05, 2023 17:49

All these accusations, yet not a shred of proof.

Sorry folks but i stand by my words.

Innocent until proven guilty. Nothing personal to either of you as I'm sure you all enjoy RVR with/against me as much as myself :wink:

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Postby Rudra » Aug 05, 2023 17:56

@ Nakja
It's just funny when it happens unilaterally.
what would you say if you keep getting upgraded the doors to level 2 and a guy comes and sets them to level 6?
Although you know for sure there are no people on the realm?
Right now that's not the problem, but what if people switch realms and you have zero deffer.

@Allyk123
You can take videos or pictures of the upgrader, but how are you going to prove that someone is dual-logging?
Only a GM can do that.

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Postby Valfar » Aug 05, 2023 18:55

Allyk123 wrote:All these accusations, yet not a shred of proof.

Sorry folks but i stand by my words.

Innocent until proven guilty. Nothing personal to either of you as I'm sure you all enjoy RVR with/against me as much as myself :wink:


Fair enough. Gonna post some screenshots from another player who was there with me, and I'll post my videos. Sadly, few of Aok's kills got screwed up cause media player was running in the background and took like 2/3 of the screen, so I deleted those. Still, there is plenty of evidence. I also apologize for one 8 minute long video, took them a while to actually do something (I guess a coffee break lol), but that one is especially hilarious cause Hanko the infi moves in to do a PA at the same time the other guy sits down. Also, on mid I tried doing /housefriend account <all those names> and I believe most of them were on the same account, or were divided on 2 accounts cause I got a message that account is already in the housefriend list when I tried all those names. Anyone currently playing mid can check, and you can also check if names Astian and Irvonem (characters wiped by Khaox today in mid frontiers) are linked to those accounts (Tamo/Olsen/Kurs/Wolkof/Saman) the same way :D.

https://ibb.co/C1YFpzq

https://ibb.co/58wh0fm

https://ibb.co/6y83xwp

https://ibb.co/820gRVH

https://ibb.co/3C0xLd0

https://ibb.co/nsRKs8w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKjesA7pbr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FchvZYlOMCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9jycr--lI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcns7V9J5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q8dJ0gvM9U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQd8Sta7o5o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWr4m8wKOpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VspOmmAJN8


The funniest part was when they brought all these characters there 1 by 1 lol, and parked them at the exact same spot. Sadly, I didn't record this cause I ported to the BGs a few mins after that, but Tidelag was there.
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Postby Skullbones » Aug 05, 2023 19:12

Lmao wow, it's pretty obvious how khaox made those 10,000 rps on wednesday...

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Postby Rudra » Aug 05, 2023 19:59

maybe Oriordan is on the same acc as Wolkof. But it could also just be a coincidence....

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Postby Valfar » Aug 05, 2023 20:13

Rudra wrote:maybe Oriordan is on the same acc as Wolkof. But it could also just be a coincidence....


Don't think so, prolly some other guy helping them.
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Postby Snigel » Aug 05, 2023 20:45

This is gold, I can´t stop laughing.

I wanna thank the detectives for the great work they´ve done.

May that poor lonesome creature be crushed by the banhammer.
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Postby Valfar » Aug 05, 2023 20:53

Snigel wrote:This is gold, I can´t stop laughing.

I wanna thank the detectives for the great work they´ve done.

May that poor lonesome creature be crushed by the banhammer.


Tidelag is senior detective, I'm the rookie with the camera and I'm also in charge of making coffee and bringing donuts every day!
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