Daetren wrote:Which I also find ironic that you defend such players while also joining our gank groups to kill them.

When I see alb being slaughtered since 4 days in 8v8 , lose each time,so yes I decided not to group at night with Enna not to overbalance even more the realm ...

When I come to defend solo, I have a 2L char shaman / SM not an 8L +, the goal not to kill everyone, but to make 1/2 kill and die with honor on the battlefield, leaving a place for other realm ...

When alb come to 12 on bledmeer yesterday, I'm already on my solo thane on way, so yes if I think it's normal to be part of the group mid who will defend, because 6v12 or so even we get to build so quickly a fg, 8v12 do not seem there a big imbalance ...

BUT ESPECIALLY, I'm not at each Keep on fire, even if sometimes it really itches me, I restrict myself so that everyone finds a little action. By what I think (and this only binds me) that everyone needs to exist, and that to let Alb take 2/3 keep instead of being there every time, would not change their behavior take a keep here, another in another zonne ... Behavior that is the only result of the current MID game ...
But I do not complain, I do with, because everyone is free to choose the game that practices as IST, or Wickedome, It's at everyone to adapt.

I come back to this because some of allies have taken your defense without even knowing what kind of games I play and find it crazy to want to be part of a defensive group when Alb shows 12 players ...
Where do I contradict myself? What seems so abnormal?

Shining wrote:For my part, I would have no problem with playing a RR2 Bersi or another twink until the situation may one day allow for something else. I think if everyone was ready, we could enjoy more exciting RVR again. I'll just suggest this today when there are enough people. Because I would like to continue playing here and I'm ready to do something for it.

It's obvious that when you build a group Reallydirty (11L), Sandwurm (8L1), shinrog (8L9), Ist (8L4), Jezebella (7L0) ... there is something to scare the adversaries.

That said it does not mean that we must completely leave our main char, maybe just adapt our game.

I sometimes refuse group because 8v8 to defend a keep, I do not seem where is the challenge!!! Even if the keep is beneficial to the bonuses that bring in attack / defense, would it not be possible to offer our adversaries an honorable fight from time to time?

Wait for them to take the keep (they already scores points) and wait for them at the exit by offering a real fight, where there will not be 8 archers / guard who prevents the healer from raising his arms. No bonus defense, but we take back the keep, which will often bring more with doors upgraded.
Maybe the result will be substantially the same, alb dies, Mid wins, but maybe instead of killing perssonne in keep, Alb will kill 1/2/3 Mid and it will changes EVERYTHING. In addition to learning them to PvP with their Team, if they score a few points they will want to come back.
It is the action without gain that makes them flee / stop.

Once again, we are all responsible for the gameplay, if our enemies have no chance, then of course they will try to flee the INC.

@IST
Your post is interesting / pleasant, we do not need to fight between us, in my head we are all brother of blood.
Let's look for solutions, I understand your game, I understand that of Alb, we all play together.

FOR UTHGARD!!!

TLDR stop spamming the post already.

I would advice you to all drink less... or more, whatever helps you. Midgards finest

Daetren wrote:So maybe go to the next keep and defend? Too bad, they switched zones and you'll never catch them. While this might be effective for keep take groups I do not think it promotes the fundamentals of RvR.

This, 100%.

I’d argue that fundamentals of RvR are primarily realms fighting each other. Players fighting each other. Having memorable fights with other players, killing, dying, testing your skills, getting better. And in turn, making your character stronger through the RPs you earn.

Secondary would be the territory game. The keep-take “king of the hill” game. Acquiring relics. Fighting the computer players. This also makes your character stronger with RPs you earn. Originally this characteristic would promote realm fighting.

What I saw for months leading up to the other server’s opening was a reversal of these characteristics to a primary territory game, secondary fighting game. Mainly by Albion, NA time. Low population and keep-take dodging promoted boredom and frustration.

The lack of population is a big cause of this problem. If the population was large, keep-take dodging and zone dodging wouldn’t be as big of an issue. There would be people nearby whatever zone the dodgers go to. There would be guilds that notify when their keep is under attack. There would be high level keeps and high level doors so enemies can’t take keeps in 3 minutes before defenders arrive. Instead, keep takers take high level keeps overnight when there are no defenders. This promotes not upgrading keeps/doors at all. Therefore giving more 3 minute keeps for the keep-take lovers to take.

With a high population it wouldn't be as hard to find fights, and dodgers wouldn't be as big of a problem.

I don't what would need to be done about this issue. It was a huge problem leading up to the other server's opening. Sounds like it is still a big problem. Maybe even worse than it was before.

i swear this malanus dude is in the autismo spectrum. bro go on a hiking trip in morocco or just go play in the traffic instead of playing daoc as this old game is obviously too complicated for you

Skullbones wrote:

Daetren wrote:So maybe go to the next keep and defend? Too bad, they switched zones and you'll never catch them. While this might be effective for keep take groups I do not think it promotes the fundamentals of RvR.

This, 100%.

I’d argue that fundamentals of RvR are primarily realms fighting each other. Players fighting each other. Having memorable fights with other players, killing, dying, testing your skills, getting better. And in turn, making your character stronger through the RPs you earn.

Secondary would be the territory game. The keep-take “king of the hill” game. Acquiring relics. Fighting the computer players. This also makes your character stronger with RPs you earn. Originally this characteristic would promote realm fighting.

What I saw for months leading up to the other server’s opening was a reversal of these characteristics to a primary territory game, secondary fighting game. Mainly by Albion, NA time. Low population and keep-take dodging promoted boredom and frustration.

The lack of population is a big cause of this problem. If the population was large, keep-take dodging and zone dodging wouldn’t be as big of an issue. There would be people nearby whatever zone the dodgers go to. There would be guilds that notify when their keep is under attack. There would be high level keeps and high level doors so enemies can’t take keeps in 3 minutes before defenders arrive. Instead, keep takers take high level keeps overnight when there are no defenders. This promotes not upgrading keeps/doors at all. Therefore giving more 3 minute keeps for the keep-take lovers to take.

With a high population it wouldn't be as hard to find fights, and dodgers wouldn't be as big of a problem.

I don't what would need to be done about this issue. It was a huge problem leading up to the other server's opening. Sounds like it is still a big problem. Maybe even worse than it was before.

Thank you for you insight sir! I miss our fights too! I'm still around if you stumble back for a few!

MARGHY wrote:i swear this malanus dude is in the autismo spectrum. bro go on a hiking trip in morocco or just go play in the traffic instead of playing daoc as this old game is obviously too complicated for you

Welcome back Ignoll Troll! Your dog mood is not missing here, by the way what do you come to haunt a forum of a server that you left? No more friend on the rival server? You already getting bored 900+ mid and all dismiss you?
Nothing, of course, you're right there for the gratuitous wickedness, which characterizes you the best!
Do not feel obliged to come back, we do not need your comments without arguments!

Even if you know perfectly the war realm vs realm you are incapable of the slightest management of the small population and how to retain it ...
Mind ProGamer = 15% total Mind population.

Skullbones wrote:Therefore giving more 3 minute keeps for the keep-take lovers to take

Gates are already all level 4, Defender can upgrade 6/8/10 to get more time? Not a prob of herald timer!

bro you should thank me for grouping you twice when everyone said you have autism, i gave you a chance and this is how you repay me ?

MARGHY wrote:bro you should thank me for grouping you twice when everyone said you have autism, i gave you a chance and this is how you repay me ?

If me remind me well it was you who came to whine several times for me to come back to play with you, I still have screenshots of your lamentation on discord!
Please come play shaman with us!

I'd appreciate staying on topic for the third time. Oceada please, stop posting, and wasting everyone's time.

yeah post the screenshots you fockin' liar. by order of the peaky bloinders !

later edit : worst shaman Uthgard has seen claims he has screenshots but when confronted about his lies he runs away in shame. bro get off the internet youre worthless

I wish we had such deep fights with the enemies

Well fought Romu. A couple good exchanges and a mighty fight at Surs! Well fought!

A gameplay problem since 4 days (when else have suffered 4 months without whining) /appeal NEED MAJOR MAJ RIGHT NOW NOOBS!

Yes it is a vulgar caricature but since the action was quickly stopped tonight, I have a lot of time to lose and I have a lot of fun.
(Butterfly effect, like all action today will affect the gameplay of tomorrow, as i said in another post)


The post is useful to the extent that:
=> They are a problem of gameplay.
=> the protagonists * of this community can exchange REASONABLE ideas on how to improve the game so that it is livable for everyone ...

Contrary to what some may think, I am not against removing the timer Herald insofar as it will always correspond to a portion of the population and that if the staff decided to update, I would adapt.

I think that it is utopian to think that the STAFF will or should do something to improve the game (for the current subject), as Valfar says so well, we have a stable server of quality it's up to us to use and exploit the best, it is not the game to adapt to everyone, but everyone to adapt to the game.

-Remove the Herald timer when other implemented features are already available like upgrade the doors, have a social network / alliance / guild / friends that can inform you. okay

-Remove the Gothis timer! Why not!
-A teleporter for Jamtland / Penine / Breifine! Let's be crazy!

Seriously, you live in a dream!

Fortunately we have an experienced STAFF who are not beginners, who are reasonable and for each action will measure perfectly the pros and cons, not to satisfy a minority, but to satisfy the greatest number, BY WHAT THE SERVER IS OPEN TO ALL, small, big, ugly, good, bad, farmer, idiots, Farmer, Roxor ...!
But with the current state, it will not be easy to update the game without greatly favoring some and greatly disadvantage others, in doubt do not touch anything
@STAFF Salutes! Another post who must be fun for you on what you are supposed to do!

=> Let's watch the action of this night ... Hib who arrives painfully to align a full group unstuff, with the half of no 50, who had prepared his raid by providing 2 ram for each gate, but sadly did not succeed to take the slightest keep, from a latency timers herald "too short?"

A small personal comment that only binds me:
How long will they take the trouble before disappearing like their predecessors? Encourage them to persevere or advise them on the forum, to salute their courage, but still the gank whenever possible, will not be enough ...

=> When other players them, are not arriving at time in the action from a herald timers latency "too long?"

As in each community, each social subgroup, work / family / friends it is obviously impossible to please everyone, I ask you to think carefully before giving ready-made solutions that only corresponds to your deep desire and very often a very small portion of the population.

Reasonable solutions have been written but stifled by the Lord of Dodem and the bad faith by what it does not correspond to to what is waiting CALL OF DUTY for all! forgetting the state of the population, the freedom of everyone to choose the type of game he wants to play

Once again the staff will not be able to do anything for the players if they do not feel responsible and do not build themselves the reasonable environment that will improve (without Update) the game of each.
The staff can not update in hurry at the slightest Fart, as long as the population does not stabilize, exept viable solutions for all are presented.
as Valfar says, Be patient

@Shinrog
Great wisdom, a good mind, a great maturity, I bless you.

@Ist
protagonists * Yes, me too, I am part of the landscape Uthgard and you have no right or power over me, not even that of accepting the floods of some and reproach me for responding to provocations to my perssonne.

@Marghy
Because it is useless to TROLL when you have no argument to defend yourself I invite you to read your MP
Salution and peace.

PS: I think that Valfar should not delay putting his comment on this beautiful post that is in a way the continuity of "Server Survival"? (yes again IST the world does not turn around your navel and you have nothing to invade).