insta dungeons killed xp for me (that was when i started to PL myself on live simply because i thought it was so boring being in TDs (task dungeons) with people)

but i agree, more quests, more bonus for grping and you will have a very good setup for a good pve experience from 1-50 instead of the 1-30 which most people only do because they look back and say: no ty rather stay here and rvr and have fun than going through another grind


ps. good idea disabling /rp off and not /xp off gives people a chance to cap a BG then move on ty for a great server but dont make it harder
instead improve what can be improved like mob dmg, grp bonus etc

Group bonus will be enhanced when the group bonus is linked to the count of mobs that add like on live.

wow good luck

amounts of mobs that add = not consistant / grp member.. it changes from mob to mob
some mobs 8 people can single pull some mobs 2 man can pull 8 of each time.. very different from each mob to another

hi all
i read the hole thread and i am real amused


i start with daoc from beta and played 5+years but never read as many crap as in this thread
i played on mid/ava and remeber that the first lvl 50 (sophi a skald ) need 14 played days for it... without to know as much about the game as we now know...

seth and presto would punish the hole server, cause they wasnt able to play a char who was helpfull for a group..so they invest 500% more time to lvl a chat like sophia ...( btw:here sec char was a hunter and he need only a few day to lvl him...he lvl 2 chars in the half time one of u lvl one....)

but the oposition is as funny too..
to say it dont make a differenz(or not a high differenz) if a newbie with green quali 85% armor near no ressi goes to bg or if u go there with high ressi high equi +6 to all
its bullshit...

u have to find a middle curse
u wanne have fun in emain? so let the chars became as fast as possible 50

its an rvr not an pvm game and there is one easy way to do it

make a merchant who sells 95% stuff for low price ... some stuff with some ressi so they can have fun in the bgs and can lvl easyerlie


its a low pop server dont forgett it.. its not easy to make a group so u have to lvl the most time solo and soloing takes a lot of time and its real boring

@ellenias

i suppose you are not on uthgard for a long time to tell such things...

it's not a easy mode server and i hope you'll never see such stuffs here...

if you want some better stuff cruise around the world and dont stay in BGs/DF to get XP bonus. and anyway aren't DF items quite the same as you say. but you need your realm get DF and you can be killed in DF... it's not loot you'll get without doing anything.

i hope you won't get more and more people level 50 without being able to do any RvR. i'am fed up with level 50 noobs.

for leveling solo... yeah maybe the 15 first levels you solo... after that you level with group, it's not so hard to find.

@panachier

try copy and paste if u r not able to transcribe a name

i will try to explain 240 people online .. 240-~30 in bgs =210/3(alb/mid/hib)=70 in each realm/50 lvl=1.4 people per lvl....
its a small group 1,4= 1 = soloing....
its not easy...

go online and tipe /who 50 in 3 years over the half pop have to be 50......
and play this chars

they r not or if they r, they r not in the rvr....

the amount of all is: is better 50, lvl 50 noobs and rvr in place of this situation
its only my opinion and this is a froum so i can wrote her down

p.s df ... first time u have to have df open, than u have to be lvl 20+ to farm seals than u can start to buy items...
its not real the same proposal i do

in my opinion most ppl stay in brae because it easier to get a twink to lvl30 than go get a lvl 31 to 50. This is because at lvl 40+ u cant find attractive places to get xp besides DF. Im really missing dungeons like Avalon City or Caer Sidi.

yep u r right
thats one reason, it have to be easier to became lvl 50....
if i can make 6 chars to 30 in same time i need to make 1 to 50 its logical, that i will do this

i start new on this server and have till now 2 chars.. one lvl 28 schamy with near 600 in cloth working
and one lvl 16 i thing, with near 600 in alchi
the next one will be a scler so i can make some sced armor for them ... and the chars after them will be full sced and with lvl 25 they will have fun in brae...
u need only one time one sced armor and u can give her to your next chars
dont have time to waste and became lvl 50 to stay alone and look around in a near empty emain...

@ellenias

yeah that seams you are not on uthgard for a long time...

if you see people in BG now, that means lot of them are leveling.

if you see few level 50 online, that means they are online with twinks. if you just ask in allychat , you'll get some help for rvr in emain if needed.

BGs are just training place for newbies and that a good thing. it's not a bad thing that some veterans stay there to learn them how to play.

if you think it's better for you to train lot of level 30 without emain experience, it's your choice. nobody will blame you about that

about DF, i know.. you proposition was " give the same loot easy way for everybody"... but that s not the uthgard way to be

ellinas wrote:u wanne have fun in emain? so let the chars became as fast as possible 50

That would be I50...and that's not what Uthgard wants to be! You also seem to forget that levelling was never a straight line (not even on Live!). It's a curve which means you can easily spent as much time for the last 10 levels as you did for the first 40 before.

ellinas wrote:make a merchant who sells 95% stuff for low price ... some stuff with some ressi so they can have fun in the bgs and can lvl easyerlie

Why not ask some experienced players? They might have something for you, too. Don't need NPC merchants for that purpose.

ellinas wrote:i will try to explain 240 people online .. 240-~30 in bgs =210/3(alb/mid/hib)=70 in each realm/50 lvl=1.4 people per lvl....
its a small group 1,4= 1 = soloing....

Nice calculation but what does it prove? You say you have to solo because there's only one player of each level online? Think again. How about grouping with some people +/-5 levels? So, you already have 11 people - that's more than will fit into a group! (Actually, because you're rounding in your example - it's 2.8 players for two levels - the result is even 15.4 players making up almost 2 FGs.)

ellinas wrote:go online and tipe /who 50 in 3 years over the half pop have to be 50......
and play this chars

And if you take a look at the Herald you'll see that a lot people actually are. However, sometimes there's not enough action (or one realm dominating) in Emain. The result is that people get frustrated and change from their level 50 character to another one. But these are personal tendencies. When you continue playing here you can try to change that yourself. You are free to try to convince people to stay and fight rather than log out. Don't think that this is our task as staff. It's the players' mentality that needs to be worked on. (E.g. not logging out after the first defeat; or possibly splitting forces when there are not enough enemies.)

ellinas wrote:thats one reason, it have to be easier to became lvl 50....
if i can make 6 chars to 30 in same time i need to make 1 to 50 its logical, that i will do this

I don't see what's logical to bring 6 characters to 30 instead of 1 all the way to 50 - especially if you can do so in the same time. Besides having fun (in whichever way you like) the goal of the game most commonly agreed on is to become level 50 and take part in the big guys' battles.

ellinas wrote:i start new on this server and have till now 2 chars.. one lvl 28 schamy with near 600 in cloth working
and one lvl 16 i thing, with near 600 in alchi

Well, I'd rather say that if you had a higher-level char then financing all this crafting would be a lot easier, wouldn't it? But if you think you have to do it this way we're the last to stop you.

@ T-Man

maybe many people don't want to lvl to 50 because it's so ****** boring?!

on live you have quests to do or whatever but here you can only grind and grind and... i forgot grind!
this means that you have maybe 6 days played time full of grinding to get to 50!

so do you really wonder why people don't want to spend their time to lvl a char to 50 if the lvl 50 rvr is boring as we've got it here?!

If there actually IS lvl 50 RvR its anything but boring...if you invest some time into getting used to it that is.Of course grinding a char to 50 is boring,but on the other hand if you have a char on 50 finally you can participate in the hardest PvE encounters (which are more fun then grinding the 25125 Twink to 30) and also in RvR which DaoC was acutally made for.


Greetz,
Player of Islana

my main subject was the lvling and thats what is the main problem.
and i don't understand why the exp rate is so low on uth. don't tell me uth would be an "easy-mode" server if the exp rate would be increased by 100% or 150%!
you still would have to go farming stuff and so on.
it seems to me that some people here don't understand why the exp rate on the live servers has been so low.

don't you get it?

they wanted to keep the players lvling because they payed for daoc.
so the devellopers extended the time spend on lvling to earn more money!

and there is no reason to do the same on uth.

Don't you get it?

Uthgard tries to rebuild the DAoC feeling that was present on Live servers a long time ago. This includes the levelling rate and not some fancy x-times XP. (If you think about it - we already have the bonus for BGs and DF which you can partly take profit of even when doing simple PvM in the mainland zones.) It is one of the base concepts of Uthgard and we won't change this no matter how often someone tries to argue that it is wrong. If you don't like the live-like XP rate no-one will force you to stick to this server. If a higher XP rate is the most important thing you need you can easily find it on other servers. There are lots of them out there.

Sure, we know that on Live servers there are hundreds of quests throughout all level ranges. But i hope you understand that we cannot simply snap our fingers to instantly have them, too. People are working to bring them to Uthgard one day or the other. However, you need to be patient because there are lot of other things to do, too.

The Classic feeling is exactly why I came to Uthgard and sticked with it.
Yea the grinding is a ****** which is why I put my blademaster on hold atm.

But as T-Man said Uthgard is what Uthgard is.
It's just more rewarding for me to finally reach 50 the hard way. Servers like Insta50 just don't cut it for me. It just feels so empty and I personally don't have any connection with my chars.
Again imo, Daoc is more than just the gameplay, which isn't always that easy-street, but it's a feeling. Putting your efforts and heart into a character.
That's why I've been playing DaoC since Euro beta. It's a feeling.