Xalara wrote:

Genjiro wrote:

Xalara wrote:This is pathetic. The only reason you are doing this is because you see that this other server is doing really well. If this wouldn't be the case, Uthgard's staff would have not moved a little finger. Your playerbase has demanded QoL changes for years and months, but you just flat out ignored them.

Thoughts, perspective and goals change over time.
I don't think there is a good or bad timing for this in general.

Thoughts, perspective and goals changed for you because you saw that there was another DAoC freeshard that had meaningful QoL changes, which people prefered over Uthgard and left.

This is the only thing that made you implement these changes, not because you've "suddenly" realized what people really wanted.

Don't take us for fools, the majority of people know why you are implementing these changes now and won't come back to your server.

We realized population had dropped below what is required for DAoC to work, and now we are taking action. Whether people left due to another server or because they wanted to play fortnite would have had the same effect. We are not taking anyone for fools.

Right, it was Fortnite and warm weather and the loch ness monster. ANYTHING but your horrible server philosophy and unwavering stance on a poor outdated number (1.65).

Developers still won't just simply admit they were wrong.

Still no fix to xp rate?

Severian wrote:Right, it was Fortnite and warm weather and the loch ness monster. ANYTHING but your horrible server philosophy and unwavering stance on a poor outdated number (1.65).

Developers still won't just simply admit they were wrong.

We probably should have reacted faster, that might have been our biggest mistake.

I never came back for uthgard 2.0. I've been told alb has no way to get the 75 s/c charge, but the other realms do? That is waaaay too imbalanced. Should fix that.

big changes to skills where in 1.85
http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Pat ... rsion_1.85

like for infils riposte becoming an after evade skill.. so slash infils would make sense coz they would get a stun..

Necromancers

- Necromancers should now be able to purchase and use the Realm Ability Purge.

- Fixed a rare bug in which Necromancers would not lose shade form when their pets went away.

- Tinderbox items can now be used by Necromancers while in shade form.

Left Axe Changes

- Decaying Rage is now a side positional style with a 5 second stun.

- Aurora Borealis now chains off of Decaying Rage.

Axe

- Valkyrie's Shield will be based off Evade for Berserkers and Shadowblades

Sword

- Frost Cut will be based off Evade for Savages.

Slash Changes

- Riposte for Infiltrators will now be based off Evade.

Dual Wield Changes

- Reflection for Infiltrators will now be based off Evade.

Thrust Changes

- Beartooth for Infiltrators will now be based off Evade.

- Ricochet for Infiltrators will be based off Evade.

Blades

- Horizon blade will now be based off Evade for Nightshades and Rangers.

Piercing

- Tarantula will now be based off Evade for Nightshades and Rangers.

just a sample.. i mean after block skills dont make sense for characters without a shield..

i mean i can understand the server policy of 1.65.. but ey classic is still fun with the balances that came after the patch..
well and the xp problem.. leveling in daoc still sucks.. its just a pain.. even with the xp bonus. cant play longer than one hour simply coz of the pure boredom of leveling. removing the 50% downtime penality is a small step.. but i tell you daoc was great because of rvr and not of pve :/ killing the dragon is fun and stuff but leveling that slow is pure pain.
greetings from an infiltrator..

Pots 10min timer? xp 900% bonus ? cure nearsight?????? i tell you in beta already what to do but you listen to trolls on this forum.
Never forget Raunz always knows best.

Did you fix the GAMEBREAKING melee snares yet ?????

Trishin wrote:We realized population had dropped below what is required for DAoC to work, and now we are taking action. Whether people left due to another server or because they wanted to play fortnite would have had the same effect. We are not taking anyone for fools.

It's funny to see how ignorant you are, still. Your playerbase has asked for QoL changes for years and you always laughed in their faces and basically told everyone "if you don't like it, leave". Which now a lot of people in fact are doing.

Uthgard's Staff had a horrible philosophy for years and now you're panicking because another server showed up that actually gets how to make a fun classic DAoC server.

The only possible way Uthgard can "come back" is to implement all QoL changes the other server already has and do a full char wipe. If this doesn't happen (which it won't, Blue already said so in another thread), Uthgard is done.

Yes, there will be no char wipe. It does not make much sense. Why would you want to force everyone to level up and templating again? With such logic you would have to reset every x years and you would still get into the same state after certain time.

Xalara wrote:

Genjiro wrote:

Xalara wrote:This is pathetic. The only reason you are doing this is because you see that this other server is doing really well. If this wouldn't be the case, Uthgard's staff would have not moved a little finger. Your playerbase has demanded QoL changes for years and months, but you just flat out ignored them.

Thoughts, perspective and goals change over time.
I don't think there is a good or bad timing for this in general.

Thoughts, perspective and goals changed for you because you saw that there was another DAoC freeshard that had meaningful QoL changes, which people prefered over Uthgard and left.

This is the only thing that made you implement these changes, not because you've "suddenly" realized what people really wanted.

Don't take us for fools, the majority of people know why you are implementing these changes now and won't come back to your server.

If the staff listened to every player request we'd be playing carebears online.

I understand you seem upset because you feel you were sitting in the back seat telling them to turn left, turn left, turn left, then when the wheel gets jerked you want to feel validated. "I was right, I TOLD you to turn left."

But this way of thinking is selfish and turns it into a personal conquest to "be right".

I agree they are making changes because of Phoenix, so what? Seriously, tell me why that matters. It doesn't change the content of the updates. Do you like the changes? Are they positive in your eyes? I'm just curious. I know they are later than you would of liked, but let's try to focus on some positives and what we can do from here.

This is why there SHOULD be 2 servers. Lack of competition breeds complacency. The ones who are jaded and say "We'll never come back to Uth!" are dooming Phoenix to the same fate. Historically how well do monopolies work out for the consumer?


As for the update - Thanks Blue. These are great steps in the right direction. I appreciate what the staff is doing and all the time and hard work being put in.

Some nice QoL coming in, i think you should also make a suggestion thread with QoL suggestions and put every month top5 or so to vote and 1+ will be implemented. Imo 10 minute pot duration is needed and also add barrels if u alrdy added 9 charge pots.

munchies wrote:also add barrels if u alrdy added 9 charge pots.

Little finger => whole arm.

Blue wrote:Auto Train
We decided to remove Auto Train from the game in the next days. This will be implemented original as in Patch 1.87. All classes which auto train will be respecced on login. You will see a message when that happens.

There was something in game for patient people. Achievers who would care to push long extra miles in order to have a small bonus. AT was one of the cornerstones of why DAoC was a RPG experience, what is called these days an old-school MMORPG. Whatever the class you wanted to play, if you decided to go with AT, it meant a lot of additional hours, days of talking your way into groups, soloing, and find creative ways to support a decision that would provide you a 2% bonus in skill points at the end, something that was barely noticeable on most classes after 4L.

I got bullied in-game by pretty much everybody who said "AT doesn't worth it, it makes no difference, you are stupid", and so if everybody was true, why don't leave it the way it was in order to allow those who are not forum whiners, but in-game hard workers something they can be proud of?

What? Just so some jealous kids would be able to have their AT points, after they said they made no difference, just to discourage others to do what they could not achieve themselves? <censored> that!

Blue wrote:Determination Realm Ability
Paladin, Reaver, Valewalker, Champion and Thane will now have access to Determination up to level 3.

Aaaaaand this is my stop.


Thank you so much for providing a free DAoC freeshard server for all this time. It has been a great ride and I'm glad I've been there to enjoy it.

Come on STAFF, you just had to stick few more months to what your guts told you for so long. I know I'm just one voice within the crowd, and I've not talked much for so long. And I know, complainers and whiners will always have a bigger impact than positive comments, unfortunately. But all these kids who promised you that things will be all right if you listened to them were just asking for your attention, but they don't give a ****** about the server that they fakely left so many times to finally haunt these forums every day with they disgraceful comments. Now, you'll lose those you worked hard to have something in game, and when you'll figure out that the whiners' promises of results were empty because based on ignorance and egoism, they will just let you down as they already did so many times, rejecting the responsibility on you, the staff, once again. I can already hear them: "We were right, but you took too long to push these".
When you just had to wait for the summer camp beta to be wiped to see everybody back on tracks.

Good luck with whatever this will become. Unfortunately, me, like my kind, we don't bargain, bully or threaten things to become our way. We do the job while we can, quietly and efficiently, or we leave and don't turn back when we get betrayed by those we've stuck with, and demostrated so much loyalty over the years.

You, staff, decided to break up your marriage with a dedicated wife, for the whore promising everything you wanted to hear just to get you. Let me tell you, it never ends well.

And to the <censored>. Good job. You've put so much effort and dedication to show us how <censored> you were, through very long and crying forum posts, pretty much every days over the past 2 years, stating how you were fed up and would never come back. But you always did come back, because <censored>. You are like this stupid girl from high-school, always crying out how life is unfair to her, when you are just a quitter and a lazy <censored>. Enjoy having for free what so many casuals were able to achieve on themselves, you <censored>!

Keeping people happy and grateful on a game they pay absolutely nothing for - impossible