Spivo wrote:

MT-Pear wrote:
Because keep raids are damn boring, if noone's in there.
We just attacked the keeps to get the albs out ... but well, (nearly) nothing happens.

Had one great zerg fight vs Albs at the beginning.

What...?

Pretty sure you'd find hibs eventually if you knocked on their relic keep...

If you want to PvE keeps without opposition, attack realms with no relics.
If you want to fight keeps with defenders, attack realms with relics.

Did the above change in DaoC?

I'm Hib, you know? There aren't much realms with relics at...

(<- Minplus, btw)

MT-Pear wrote:I'm Hib, you know? There aren't much realms with relics at...

(<- Minplus, btw)

Appologize then, I assumed it was a mid defending why they were raiding Albion keeps (knowing there'd be no defenders).

But yeah, hard for hibs to find any keep fights with defenders.

Eorkern wrote:So funny to see mids taking alb keeps instead of hib yesterday. At least alb zerg went hib.

https://clips.twitch.tv/CredulousVenomo ... sBoshyTime

But honestly, after months of facing the same Alb mentality its hard to not build up a little hatred towards albs for the zerg mentality.
A good example. Ran into an Eagle Guard 8man group a few days ago in Uppland, fought them in 2 fights and defeated them(A group we love to fight since they seem like they are on our level). Then DF opened up and when they saw us on the stairs, they ran and hid with 2fga jumping us with 3full groups.

Playing in a group that is not top tier and trying to be flexible depending on the action, makes it really hard when all you can face is groups who only beat you(usual 2-3 hib groups), or a realm that only zergs. Guess my tears are just as justicied as the realm's who claim they cant do 8v8 because its too hard, but they cant zerg either because one guy is missing to start the BG.

How much more handholding do you need to actually come out and play

Don't know what you talking about, just saying that attacking keeps from a realm with no relic is retarded if you expect any kind of defense, whatever the realm is.

Eorkern wrote:Don't know what you talking about, just saying that attacking keeps from a realm with no relic is retarded if you expect any kind of defense, whatever the realm is.

Romu wrote:Why should we take back our keeps if we have no relics? Because that are ALB keeps. Why should we upgrade the doors of our keeps, the other realms will raid them anyway and will get more rps? Because it are ALB keeps and maybe it gives us the time window to reach the keep in time and wipe the attacker. Why should i raid an empty keep, it only gives 100 rps? Because it is an ALB keep. Why should i defend Albion when i get more RPs in Odins/Emain? Because it ist ALBION. That is reason enough, that is realm pride. A good evening for me has nothing to do with rps, a good evening is when all alb keeps are red and when df is albion.
It also is realm pride to help my realm in bad times when we have no relics.

I am Romu and i am proud to be an Alb. Defending my realm is the reason why i play this game.

Just leaving this here.

Hmmm,

Include the relics in all zerg events, include all the keeps. Open the doors of Druim Ligen too while we are at it. I could go for smashing mag mell while we are having a silly poll about whether you should half ass rvr or play it to the fullest..

Poler

wonshot wrote:

Eorkern wrote:Don't know what you talking about, just saying that attacking keeps from a realm with no relic is retarded if you expect any kind of defense, whatever the realm is.

Romu wrote:Why should we take back our keeps if we have no relics? Because that are ALB keeps. Why should we upgrade the doors of our keeps, the other realms will raid them anyway and will get more rps? Because it are ALB keeps and maybe it gives us the time window to reach the keep in time and wipe the attacker. Why should i raid an empty keep, it only gives 100 rps? Because it is an ALB keep. Why should i defend Albion when i get more RPs in Odins/Emain? Because it ist ALBION. That is reason enough, that is realm pride. A good evening for me has nothing to do with rps, a good evening is when all alb keeps are red and when df is albion.
It also is realm pride to help my realm in bad times when we have no relics.

I am Romu and i am proud to be an Alb. Defending my realm is the reason why i play this game.

Just leaving this here.

Im sorry but i think we all know that Romu got hit on his bucket a few too many times.

I just don't understand some people's hatred toward albs. i wonder if you got spanked too much/too hard by albs when you were a toddler. i guess you keep hating and we keep playing.

wonshot wrote:

Eorkern wrote:So funny to see mids taking alb keeps instead of hib yesterday. At least alb zerg went hib.

https://clips.twitch.tv/CredulousVenomo ... sBoshyTime

But honestly, after months of facing the same Alb mentality its hard to not build up a little hatred towards albs for the zerg mentality.
A good example. Ran into an Eagle Guard 8man group a few days ago in Uppland, fought them in 2 fights and defeated them(A group we love to fight since they seem like they are on our level). Then DF opened up and when they saw us on the stairs, they ran and hid with 2fga jumping us with 3full groups.

Playing in a group that is not top tier and trying to be flexible depending on the action, makes it really hard when all you can face is groups who only beat you(usual 2-3 hib groups), or a realm that only zergs. Guess my tears are just as justicied as the realm's who claim they cant do 8v8 because its too hard, but they cant zerg either because one guy is missing to start the BG.

How much more handholding do you need to actually come out and play

This is awful example. How can you expect fair fights in DF? If you go to DF expecting 8v8, you're gonna have a bad time....

MT-Pear wrote:[Because keep raids are damn boring, if noone's in there.
We just attacked the keeps to get the albs out ... but well, (nearly) nothing happens.

Early mornings a korean guildy Orthon calls it the korean BBQ. taking all thekeeps to get people to come out even if they are empty. with luck someone will come out during korean times. the name kinda stuck for other times, taking all keeps hoping someone will come out. lol

jalore wrote:

MT-Pear wrote:[Because keep raids are damn boring, if noone's in there.
We just attacked the keeps to get the albs out ... but well, (nearly) nothing happens.

Early mornings a korean guildy Orthon calls it the korean BBQ. taking all thekeeps to get people to come out even if they are empty. with luck someone will come out during korean times. the name kinda stuck for other times, taking all keeps hoping someone will come out. lol

With the difference that the raid from MT-Pear was at a good time with many players on. Albion was trying to fight in Hibernia but got outnumbered and later on raided by mids. We switched to Midgard then.

Albion is having problems at the moment, no doubt. As the server relaunched hib was the suffering realm for a long time, now it changed. It ´s pretty hard to get a good balance between the 3 realms, especially with the 7d switch timer that prevents ppl to switch realm immediatly.
On Uth1 some guilds switched when they saw there was no action to get a balance in rvr. The question is would the removal or shorten of the 7d switch timer help somehow?
I ´m not sure if it would help, or make things even worse. Probably only Albion can help themselves as they try to increase their numbers in rvr.

Jerrian wrote:

jalore wrote:

MT-Pear wrote:[Because keep raids are damn boring, if noone's in there.
We just attacked the keeps to get the albs out ... but well, (nearly) nothing happens.

Early mornings a korean guildy Orthon calls it the korean BBQ. taking all thekeeps to get people to come out even if they are empty. with luck someone will come out during korean times. the name kinda stuck for other times, taking all keeps hoping someone will come out. lol

With the difference that the raid from MT-Pear was at a good time with many players on. Albion was trying to fight in Hibernia but got outnumbered and later on raided by mids. We switched to Midgard then.

Albion is having problems at the moment, no doubt. As the server relaunched hib was the suffering realm for a long time, now it changed. It ´s pretty hard to get a good balance between the 3 realms, especially with the 7d switch timer that prevents ppl to switch realm immediatly.
On Uth1 some guilds switched when they saw there was no action to get a balance in rvr. The question is would the removal or shorten of the 7d switch timer help somehow?
I ´m not sure if it would help, or make things even worse. Probably only Albion can help themselves as they try to increase their numbers in rvr.

Used to see various keep takes by albs and the names of who took it knew it was an organized effort. and that would rally up hibs a bit to go out and fight them. Is there a leadership issue in alb atm?

Jerrian wrote:On Uth1 some guilds switched when they saw there was no action to get a balance in rvr. The question is would the removal or shorten of the 7d switch timer help somehow?

NO!

You dont see Albzerg in RvR because there are no public BGs at the moment (EU Prime).
And 8vs8.. its realy hard to build a group that can win some fights. I understand why so many Albs went to Hib/Mid...

But the last uthgard need is more realm switcher and more winning team joiner.

Looking at "Trading" section, people are moving plats away from Albion, not to Albion.
Lower realmswitch timer would in no way improve if people could do it faster.

It's a misunderstandment that people in any way would want to move to help a realm, or even the odds. Most people, oddly enough, actually like winning most of their fights.

The only way you make a player base move to the "hardest" (this is subjective, as I know many will say Albs can form strong 8man groups, just like Dark Dawn did 1 year ago, despite them leaving the realm again) realm, is by giving them an incentive of some sort.


As it is now, Albion earns the least rps, have no relics, and having DF feels like catching a Leprechaun. So in the words of Bart Simpson "We're going to catch up to them by going slower?"


Edit: I'm being told by my reporter in Uthgard, that Albs currently holds DF. So... yay?

Maybe making it so that realm transfer towards the underpopulated realm takes only one day instead of seven might help out, as much as introducing an xp bonus of some sort in said realm.