shatton1987 wrote:GroupPurge > PR.

That's some serious lack of judgement there. You should try Hib just to figure out yourself how untrue this statement is.

Group purge on paper is more powerful. Can wipe an entire great INC from Mid pach instantly. And Mids do thrive on good INCs. If a team is needing to use PR, then they are probably already in some serious trouble. Still a useful RA though.

Albs/Hibs are harder to play with succes, but in the hands of good players they are very strong.

Sorc, minstrel, bards, for example are 3 classes that have a huge responsibility with waay to much to do, but also tons of utility.

Add to this that most mids gets familiar with their class while leveling, and albs/hibs never (almost) level on same setup as RvR, and you will have mids dominating vs most groups.

Spivo wrote:Albs/Hibs are harder to play with succes, but in the hands of good players they are very strong.

Sorc, minstrel, bards, for example are 3 classes that have a huge responsibility with waay to much to do, but also tons of utility.

Add to this that most mids gets familiar with their class while leveling, and albs/hibs never (almost) level on same setup as RvR, and you will have mids dominating vs most groups.

Spivo... You mention a bard as having waay too much to do, and with a ton of utility.. A bard basically mezz, demezz and amnesia. they do not by any means have alot of utility. On the other hand, take a look at a healers utility, which you dont even mention here.
They are probably one of the hardest classes to master, but as its a "midgard easy realm" class, then you dont even mention it. A healer has more utility than all of the 3 mentioned... But i get it, its just easymode mids we are talking about here

Synderen wrote:Spivo... You mention a bard as having waay too much to do, and with a ton of utility.. A bard basically mezz, demezz and amnesia. they do not by any means have alot of utility. On the other hand, take a look at a healers utility, which you dont even mention here.
They are probably one of the hardest classes to master, but as its a "midgard easy realm" class, then you dont even mention it. A healer has more utility than all of the 3 mentioned... But i get it, its just easymode mids we are talking about here

I totally forgot healers have to twist endo/speed (keep in mind this can be interrupted), while demezzing, mezzing, casting amnesia (bards is insta, but on a timer), oh and they wear reinforced instead of chain.
Slipped my mind, sorry yeah healers are waaaay harder.

Did you try playing a bard? Because I tried for 6 months, and I gave up. It is horrible to manage.

rofl when people actualy try and argue that bards are harder to play then pac healer

anyway ... mid is on a disadvantage at this patch as soon as alb/hib got all the needed ra's and when the people playing reach a certain skill lvl so they are able to actualy play hybrid/caster grp's.

So your saying because of ras, alb has the advantage in rvr?

So they can win 1 fight every 30 mins?

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Not just the RAs.. albs can have soooooo many pets... cabas, minstrels, theurgs .. Really difficult to beat a group with 2 Minstrels and their redcon pets :'D

Oh now its pets? Ok

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Let's not act like Albs have it bad in big boy RvR on patch 1.65.

As I already said looong time ago: With old RA midgard will always be the leading realm in rp ranking and highest player and s hit. Just because it is quite easy to build pugs that do quite ok. So it is just time invested = rp.
Albs are the best in serious 8vs8. If it is 2 minstrel, 2 cabby or 2 theurg, that know what a qbind is... hard to beat for mids.
And hibs are in between. They could build easy pugs but they don't do it (I never got why), they do better against albs than mids do, but have a hard time against mid tank grps.

Simple as that.

holsten-knight wrote:As I already said looong time ago: With old RA midgard will always be the leading realm in rp ranking and highest player and s hit. Just because it is quite easy to build pugs that do quite ok. So it is just time invested = rp.
Albs are the best in serious 8vs8. If it is 2 minstrel, 2 cabby or 2 theurg, that know what a qbind is... hard to beat for mids.
And hibs are in between. They could build easy pugs but they don't do it (I never got why), they do better against albs than mids do, but have a hard time against mid tank grps.

Simple as that.

Sums it up pretty well if you ask me. That's been my experience.

Although Midgard doesn't really have a lot of vital RAs to get that help a lot. After det 5 on tanks, and Purge on all others, there's not much left. Ichor for Shamans, PR if you're high enough on Healer (I think MoC is above PR though by a long shot). The rest are just standard RAs all realms can get. So yeah it's easier for Mids to get their RAs because there aren't any to get.

Mids do get out to an early lead for sure. But drivers that lead the first lap of Datona rarely lead the last (I could be wrong LOL).

But for putting together 8 players, Alb reins supreme vs all combinations. That's of course if they have their basic RAs together and also are competent players.

Midgard's strongest advantage seems to be vs a Hib tank group. That's what Mids are built for with melee DPS + celerity.

Ok, so whos the mythical alb team that rules the roost on uthgard?

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Ownnyn wrote:Ok, so whos the mythical alb team that rules the roost on uthgard?

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Dve, Marlboro, Pwncakes, Nargz, Lightning and the others they run with. Best Alb group atm imo.

I've seen Casuals beat them with their three-healer setup. If you dont have three very good healers then its extremely tough.

Liah wrote:

Ownnyn wrote:Ok, so whos the mythical alb team that rules the roost on uthgard?

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Dve, Marlboro, Pwncakes, Nargz, Lightning and the others they run with. Best Alb group atm imo.

I've seen Casuals beat them with their three-healer setup. If you dont have three very good healers then its extremely tough.

Lol, that alb 8man pug is the ONLY one from alb atm.. so there is no other compitition. They are the best alb 8 man atm, and the worst