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relvinian
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Postby relvinian » Aug 09, 2017 13:31

I actually tried this xp thing since the patch.

When you login and you kill something solo there is no difference.

So if you spam lfg and can't get a group and solo, ur xp is still slow.
https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37632

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Postby Kha » Aug 09, 2017 13:46

relvinian wrote:I actually tried this xp thing since the patch.

When you login and you kill something solo there is no difference.

So if you spam lfg and can't get a group and solo, ur xp is still slow.


Then go RvR ! It's a group bonus and you still find away to state : it doesn't improve solo xp :gaga:
They gave you all those BG you asked on several threads for a long time. Now enjoy.
+1000% xp per kill, that's not slow, if you know what you are doing.

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Postby Runental » Aug 09, 2017 14:46

relvinian wrote:I actually tried this xp thing since the patch.

When you login and you kill something solo there is no difference.

So if you spam lfg and can't get a group and solo, ur xp is still slow.


The Xp is still faster withouth those overcap bonus.

Yesterday we killed high purp skelletons around Furor in Breifine,- we were 8 mixed people between 30 and 35.. not the best setup, but not the worst.
The Bonus will appear, but the problem is you need very long to kill such high purps and achive the bonus..
After 2 Hours, half of the grp leaves and we decided to chain kill the orange/yellow Arachnite in Thidranki with 4 people... fast kills, and fast repop... and even without this overcap bonus, It was significantly faster..
So as mentioned in this thread, this bonus will only affect perfect setup groups with high dmg output (i.e. melees) per time, cause everything else stands in no relation to the time investment to kill a mob.
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Postby Nijuro » Aug 09, 2017 14:51

-Keep Realm Point Pool and Siege Incentives
i dont care cuz i just play solo / smallman i mean i would like to

-XP Changes - Group XP Caps
good

-Darkness Falls access
good

-World Changes
good

-User Interface Improvements
good

-nothing for solo/smallmans
bad

do i log in? still not

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Postby Severian » Aug 09, 2017 16:15

If the devs had just simply communicated to us players what they were debating/discussion/planning, we could have voiced our concerns with a boost to XP CAP, instead of XP. But they refuse to keep us in the loop until after everything is said and done.

As someone else said on either this thread or another, there's a reason we remember a Sanya. It's because of her openness and willingness to discuss and inform the player base of what is going on with DAoC and its development. That was a pretty huge part of their success.
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Postby playfull » Aug 09, 2017 16:27

Severian wrote:If the devs had just simply communicated to us players what they were debating/discussion/planning, we could have voiced our concerns with a boost to XP CAP, instead of XP. But they refuse to keep us in the loop until after everything is said and done.

As someone else said on either this thread or another, there's a reason we remember a Sanya. It's because of her openness and willingness to discuss and inform the player base of what is going on with DAoC and its development. That was a pretty huge part of their success.



yep - some more "open" communication is nice

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Postby bruts » Aug 09, 2017 16:57

"Battleground "Medal of Honor" quests have been updated for the new level ranges."

Ist this the Quest i can get in Jordheim from the NPC Ostaden? Dont work for me with lvl45 Skald. NPC got yellow Ring on Ground for a Quest, but he dont talk with me.
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Postby Abydos » Aug 09, 2017 17:01

Please try again. Fixed another thing...

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Postby bruts » Aug 09, 2017 17:15

Abydos wrote:Please try again. Fixed another thing...


Tested it and at the same Time wrote it here. Will test it next Time when i am in JH.
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Postby Blacksin » Aug 09, 2017 17:38

relvinian wrote:I actually tried this xp thing since the patch.

When you login and you kill something solo there is no difference.

So if you spam lfg and can't get a group and solo, ur xp is still slow.


To hell with the average solo player. I feel a Boycott a Brewin. :twisted:

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Postby Blacksin » Aug 09, 2017 17:42

Nijuro wrote:-Keep Realm Point Pool and Siege Incentives
i dont care cuz i just play solo / smallman i mean i would like to

-XP Changes - Group XP Caps
good

-Darkness Falls access
good

-World Changes
good

-User Interface Improvements
good

-nothing for solo/smallmans
bad

do i log in? still not


Devs, dont' care about solo's duo's small man's. Uthgard just for full groups. Boycott, if your the one on the outs. Then lets see the number crash further.

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Postby relvinian » Aug 09, 2017 17:54

Blacksin wrote:
relvinian wrote:I actually tried this xp thing since the patch.

When you login and you kill something solo there is no difference.

So if you spam lfg and can't get a group and solo, ur xp is still slow.


To hell with the average solo player. I feel a Boycott a Brewin. :twisted:


Boycott?

40k accounts and 35k left, would you characterize that as a boycott? That's like how I feel about my ex gfs, don't know, don't care.

No I'm still interested. Still like daoc. Still playing. All of those who are still interested, still like daoc, still play, we are trying to build a world with the devs. It would be nice to try and get back some of those 35k players who quit. Why did they quit? How do we get them back?
https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37632

Players can greatly contribute to a server if you let them.

Uthgard, still the best server. Thanks, Devs.

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Postby Nijuro » Aug 09, 2017 18:01

relvinian wrote: Still like daoc. Still playing. All of those who are still interested, still like daoc, still play,


i cant play, what should i do?
i log in and do nothing?

i am already 50 and dont need to level something else

so what can i do here?
i dont like to play 8man

one other problem even if would invest the effort and try to solo / smallman again, even if every 8man kills me on sight
the other players who want to solo/smallman got the same barriers
-no speed
-no buffpotion charges
-die on sight against 8mans

so against who should i fight?

you think i give 10 trys to find a solo and get zerged in 9 of them by a 8man?
and in the 10th case i search the whole fz for an hour?

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Postby Equade » Aug 09, 2017 18:13

Nijuro wrote:
relvinian wrote: Still like daoc. Still playing. All of those who are still interested, still like daoc, still play,


i cant play, what should i do?
i log in and do nothing?

i am already 50 and dont need to level something else

so what can i do here?
i dont like to play 8man

one other problem even if would invest the effort and try to solo / smallman again, even if every 8man kills me on sight
the other players who want to solo/smallman got the same barriers
-no speed
-no buffpotion charges
-die on sight against 8mans

so against who should i fight?

you think i give 10 trys to find a solo and get zerged in 9 of them by a 8man?
and in the 10th case i search the whole fz for an hour?


You're not entitled to be pampered and brought fodder the way you want it when you want it. Be smart about it and have patience - which you 100% need to have to play the way you want. If you like smallman you need to have speed. If you like soloing then steer clear of the hotspots and go hide away around a milegate somewhere (Hadrian's or Odin's).

We _all_ know that daoc can be a ****** sometimes but it can be equally joyful when those streaks of proper fights come in. I for one do not care to log in if I'm in a bad mood because this game can easily add more frustrations, just a pro tip ;) And that's not directly related to the state of the server (albeit spending a long time to get to your murder zone where your executioner squad awaits will not do anything good on top ;p)
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Postby elrim208 » Aug 09, 2017 18:43

Has anyone ever considered that a game that is this old has a limited lifespan no matter how good the devs reproduce the experience? Every change they make is in the spirit of the game, and they are very careful about how they do it. It's just a fact of life that the population will decline over time, and there is literally nothing that can be done to stop it. So sick of all the "this won't save the server posts" that want free level 50s and full population rvr all day so they can solo 8 mans.

Bottom line: the devs do a damn good job and you aren't smarter than they are. Nothing will "fix" the population because there is no problem to solve. There was a huge hype for the relaunch and the hype died down. No matter what happens we will never see the population we saw at launch again. This is a natural life cycle.

I really appreciate all the work put into this server. I won't play here forever (nor will anyone really), but this server is far and away the closest experience to classic I've ever had and I absolutely love it. I hope it lasts as long as possible, and I don't think a different approach would facilitate that any better than their current path.

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