De_Kus wrote:

Grunklestank wrote:

De_Kus wrote:But we cannot change how the RNG in DAoC is integrated "just like that".

Sure you can... lol??

Have you even bothered to read even the simplest suggestions (like the moving average) and realize how many averages you'd need to track for every single player?
A simple swing of a single weapon against a normal shield tank that actually hits with no proc triggered would involve those roles:
attacker roll: chance to hit
defender roll: chance to block
defender roll: chance to evade
defender roll: chance to parry
attacker roll: part of armour to hit
attacker roll: damage dealt
defender roll: chance of reactive proc
attacker roll: chance of offensive proc

Disclaimer: example not guaranteed to be accurate, but just meant to illustrate the number of actual rolls behind the scenes.

And that's just a typical melee roll. While you might be fine throwing some roles of one player together, it would make no sense to make an averaged luck for too many rolls. You cannot just simply modify a function rnd() to magically smoothen stuff out. Since adding an average directly in rnd() could mean, that player A gets all the low and player B all the high rolls. Or if you average on a single play, it could mean he always hits for max damage (2 high rolls), but always hits the feet and never activates the proc (2 low rolls). That would hardly fix any miss series!

Foneb wrote:lemme tell you about my crafting experience today :

goal : get a lvl 99 cloth chest.
item skill 1115
my skill (tailoring and clothworking) at start 1112

10x fail
100 (tailoring up to 1113)
95 (clothworking to 1113)
5x fail in a row
97 (tailoring 1114)
94 (clothworking 1114)
98 (tailoring 1115)
fail
97 (clothworking to 1115)
2x fail
98 (tailoring 1116)
95 (tailoring 1117 clothworking 1116)
fail
95 (clothworking 1117)
fail
96
fail
96
98
97 (tailoring 1118)
9x fail in a row
98 (1118 clothworking 1119 tailoring)
97 (clothworking 1119 tailoring 1120)
98 (clothworking 1120)
2x fail
99 finally

im not sure about the math behind this, but the looooong fail streaks feel wrong. althogh might mathematicly correct people wouldt mind if the rng behind it is smoothend out.
and if oyu count in the fails 49 tries for a 99 is kinda harsh aswell. 16 tries if you ignore the fails (which i think is a seperate roll - not horrible but bad luck)

Blue wrote:What you see there is no streak. Its one craft attempt with a stack of items (all of same quality) as result. We can change that so you don't get multiple messages.

relvinian wrote:Resists vs melee misses.

When you quick cast that mez on that tank and it resists, you are dead.

If you miss with your tank, then you swing again.

Due to the patch level, which is already melee focused, and reduced rps while dead, melee toons already have an advantage.

When you go talking about the odds and curves and etc, it still doesn't matter because one type of toon misses, and then hits the next time, while the other type has ONE chance to win vs stealther or tank, and they too often don't get that one chamce.

relvinian wrote:
When you go talking about the odds and curves and etc, it still doesn't matter because one type of toon misses, and then hits the next time, while the other type has ONE chance to win vs stealther or tank, and they too often don't get that one chamce.