Its simple do the math alb stealthers get crappy 30 stat pots, the charges are 75 that is 180 stat difference....How is that balanced lol?

Rhocien wrote:Its simple do the math alb stealthers get crappy 30 stat pots, the charges are 75 that is 180 stat difference....How is that balanced lol?

2 Words:

Dragonfang
Diamondback



I'll trade my 75 str/con and 75 d/q in a heartbeat for one of the 2 styles.

Exercia Devoras wrote:

Rhocien wrote:Its simple do the math alb stealthers get crappy 30 stat pots, the charges are 75 that is 180 stat difference....How is that balanced lol?

2 Words:

Dragonfang
Diamondback



I'll trade my 75 str/con and 75 d/q in a heartbeat for one of the 2 styles.

Ill trade my diamondback for beeing able to spec slash, beeing able to PA with a 2h, LA mechanics, have 70str anc con at start, a s/c charge and a stun (2 seconds longer then diamondback) after an evade style.

Exercia Devoras wrote:

Rhocien wrote:Its simple do the math alb stealthers get crappy 30 stat pots, the charges are 75 that is 180 stat difference....How is that balanced lol?

2 Words:

Dragonfang
Diamondback



I'll trade my 75 str/con and 75 d/q in a heartbeat for one of the 2 styles.

LOL yea cause DF is purged 99% of the time..Funny.....

Rhocien wrote:

Exercia Devoras wrote:

Rhocien wrote:Its simple do the math alb stealthers get crappy 30 stat pots, the charges are 75 that is 180 stat difference....How is that balanced lol?

2 Words:

Dragonfang
Diamondback



I'll trade my 75 str/con and 75 d/q in a heartbeat for one of the 2 styles.

LOL yea cause DF is purged 99% of the time..Funny.....

In the world of tears, Purge cooldown is 5 seconds i know.

In the world of tears, Purge cooldown is 5 seconds i know.[/quote]

LOL says the easy mode...

Rhocien wrote:
LOL says the easy mode...

just get 47 env and there is no easymode. Fixed. maybe i should write an infi guide fpr you?

Infiltrator:
Almost 500 spec points more
9sec after evade stun
More WS due to 50 spec in weapon
Totally OP duel spec as shadowmerc
Str/con env only affects half of the WS

SB:
S/Q and D/Q purple
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2h PA (how often does a assassin PA another assasin?)
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Exercia Devoras wrote:

Rhocien wrote:
LOL says the easy mode...

just get 47 env and there is no easymode. Fixed. maybe i should write an infi guide fpr you?

LOL ok you can call it GUIDE TO EASY MODE...

look what i wrote in the post before...infi is far more > SB. Problem is, you only have one player in your realm who knows hot to play this charand this is obviously not you^^

Necrofiltators

Exercia Devoras wrote:look what i wrote in the post before...infi is far more > SB. Problem is, you only have one player in your realm who knows hot to play this charand this is obviously not you^^

Necrofiltators

your funny you should do stand up..I'm done with you...Anyone would want a even playing field...Thats all we want..dunno how you cant get it in your head that its imbalanced lol....Have a good day.

Rhocien wrote:

Exercia Devoras wrote:look what i wrote in the post before...infi is far more > SB. Problem is, you only have one player in your realm who knows hot to play this charand this is obviously not you^^

Necrofiltators

your funny you should do stand up..I'm done with you...Anyone would want a even playing field...Thats all we want..dunno how you cant get it in your head that its imbalanced lol....Have a good day.

I will soon make a list what you can do in real life within 9 secs. just for the luls.

Note, i am aware there are other factors playing a big role in those fights, like armor vulnerabilities, relic bonus, stun styles straight after evade(what allows infs/ns to use a high GR evade chain right afterwards), funny nightshade buttons and most important... luck, but this post will just be about charakter stats and buff charges since ppl come up with crazy claims like 180 stat buff difference between different realms.

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Infiltrator
75dex/qui(charge) + 20dex(pot) + 20str(pot) + 30str/con(pot) = (95dex + 50str)/2 = 72 effective damage stat points via buffs

30con x 3.4 = 102 hits (could be wrong with the hitpoints since i don't know if SBs got the extra hits via higher consti multiplier or if it is a base hp bonus)
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Shadowblade
75str/con(charge) + 20str(pot) = 95 effective damage stat points via buffs

75con x 3.4 = 255 hits
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So if both are buffed the SBs got an advantage of 23 effectiv damage stat points and additional 153 hitpoints. You should keep in mind this is before str/con debuff and disease are in place.

Below you see how str/con debuff + disease is affecting stats in different buff states.

unbuffed
175str 145con -> debuffed 107str 86con = -68str/-59con

str/con pot + base str pot
225 str 175 con -> debuffed 130 str 101 con = -95str/-74con

str/con charge + base str pot
270 str 220 con -> debuffed 151 str 124 con = -119str/-96con

SBs with str/con charge up will lose 24 more str points and additional 22 con than Infils/Nightshades if they get hit by a level 47 str/con debuff poison and disease.

Lets compare the effective damage stat points of Infils and SBs.

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Saracen Infil starting stats 15dex/10str fully templated and buffed with 30 str/con(pot), 75 dex/qui(charge), 20 str(pot) and 20 dex(pot):

Stats without being affected by str/con debuff/disease -> 200 str / 155 con / 310 dex -> (200 + 310) / 2 = 255 total effective damage stat points

Stats while under effect of str/con debuff/disease -> 105 str / 81 con / 310 dex -> (310 + 105) / 2 = 207 total effective damage stat points
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Norseman Shadowblade starting stats 15str/10qui fully templated and buffed with 75 str/con(charge) and 20 str(pot):

Stats without being affected by str/con debuff/disease -> 270 str / 220 con = 270 total effective damage stat points

Stats while under effect of str/con debuff/disease -> 151 str / 124 con = 151 total effective damage stat points
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The infil got a 56 damage stat point advantage if both are affected by str/con debuff + disease also he will get a slighly higher evade chance because of +45 dex via race choice while the SB get a hitpoint advantage of +43 extra con (both fully buffed with all available charges/pots on Uthgard 2.0).
Now you are asking for str/con charges in Alb/Hib, i would say ok... as long as they also change the str/con debuff poison to a WS/Con debuff poison like Mythic did in a later patch.

Ws/con debuff instead of str/con seems like the answer and give str/con charge to all realms. And a dex/qui charge item in albion is rare as f... i dont think you fight alot of sneaks that run that.


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Alb/hib cant get purple str/con charge? No items implemented? Ours are not easy by any means 2 get. Neither is evern bracer all 3 realms have same chance 4 that.

In group mid is only realm that cannot buff entire group without running 2 sham. Ok so albs have 2 give up a few spec af but u can charge that too just like we charge 3-4 acuity or dex/quick and the spec af

Intiltrator:

Pro:
100 % Weapon Damage
Dex/Str Weapons
2.5 Specpoints
Vanish
DIRECT win-Button (9 Seconds)

Con:
-45 Str/Con compared so SBs


Nightshade:

Pro:
100 % Weapon Damage
Dex/Str Weapons
Avoid Pain
Wild Arcana
Viper
DIRECT win-Button (5 Seconds)
Range-Rupts

Con:
-45 Str/Con compared to SBs


Shadowblade:

Pro:
+45 Str/Con compared to Infs/NS
2Handers

Con:
66.6 % Weapon Damage
Str Weapons
no good RAs
INDIRECT win-Button (7 Seconds)

Please Nerf SBs, they are so overpowered. :--(