insta gib full buffed red healproc necros?

Nef Melody wrote:Let us get them to melee with debuffs/amnesia, one of the most gamebreaking bugs when facing albs in rvr.

Dont cry ,they will fix it

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ZaiQQ wrote:insta gib full buffed red healproc necros?

nope.

ZaiQQ wrote:insta gib full buffed red healproc necros?

Yes they got a nice custom 20% damage increase, now your full buffed necro pet with red heal procc will just die if you don't heal it with another cleric. Quality change, thank god we were almost finished with the rerolling when they introduced it

so i was just logged in during EU prime and about 10 hibs in DL, compared to like 80 a few weeks ago. Some of my guild mates are thinking of rerolling alb. How come none of these insane, amazing, ego driven alb 8 mans come to hib.

There is a variety of bugs that are favorable for alb and/or especially bad for Hib

Ice pets is one of them
Then there's the Far Dorocha pet frequently (ab)used by albs, the mezz of the pet has no dmgtype, so the duration won't be affected by resists
Then there's the bug that if your pet has been ccd once, the owner will be permanently flagged as in Combat. (This is by far affecting druids the most - no mcl possible unless you release your pet) (lol)

Things I am not sure about whether they are a feature or a bug
Tundra style ?
Cabbalist pet dot rupting with every tic (is that livelike at this patch level ? idk, pretty op tho)

Raifs wrote:

ZaiQQ wrote:insta gib full buffed red healproc necros?

Yes they got a nice custom 20% damage increase, now your full buffed necro pet with red heal procc will just die if you don't heal it with another cleric. Quality change, thank god we were almost finished with the rerolling when they introduced it

So either the mobs do too much, buffs give to little absorption, or red healproc isn't healing/proccing enough, they did custom change bog of cullens siabra city a long while ago.

Nef Melody wrote:Then there's the Far Dorocha pet frequently (ab)used by albs, the mezz of the pet has no dmgtype, so the duration won't be affected by resists

The only way to mez people with a Far Dorocha is to ask it to attack them. What does the pet do after it mezzes you? It runs up and breaks it's own mez it used on the target This is barely a factor you're speaking about since the pet will just break it anyway.

The reason to use Far dorocha is that it is the highest level mob in emain that can be maintained, isn't easy to kill or cc itself because it's a red con, and that it has a ranged interupt. I've tried using a mind worm and while it's nice, it's not near as easy as the Far Dorochas to keep. Far Dorochas are roughly 40% resist rate as stupid as that is for a level 55 pet, but the mind worms at level 58 are 75-80% resist. No other pet in emain has range and is around this level that a minst can charm. Trust me, I'd use a mind worm if charm was coded correctly but its not at all.

aylictal wrote:The only way to mez people with a Far Dorocha is to ask it to attack them. What does the pet do after it mezzes you? It runs up and breaks it's own mez it used on the target This is barely a factor you're speaking about since the pet will just break it anyway.

People being too stupid to use the pet to mezz and then send it to another target doesn't make it worse believe me, me and others in my grp have been mezzed dozens of times without it getting broken.

Raifs wrote:

ZaiQQ wrote:insta gib full buffed red healproc necros?

Yes they got a nice custom 20% damage increase, now your full buffed necro pet with red heal procc will just die if you don't heal it with another cleric. Quality change, thank god we were almost finished with the rerolling when they introduced it

just wrong, i have to heal maybe every other pull ( as full ench) and never more then mcl/sitting coulnd reg (witout pom)

Nef Melody wrote:Cabbalist pet dot rupting with every tic (is that livelike at this patch level ? idk, pretty op tho)

That's working as intended. All dots/bleeds from pets will rupt every tick.

Nef Melody wrote:

aylictal wrote:The only way to mez people with a Far Dorocha is to ask it to attack them. What does the pet do after it mezzes you? It runs up and breaks it's own mez it used on the target This is barely a factor you're speaking about since the pet will just break it anyway.

People being too stupid to use the pet to mezz and then send it to another target doesn't make it worse believe me, me and others in my grp have been mezzed dozens of times without it getting broken.

That minstrel obviously either had the pet on defend and was attacked and miraculously swapped its target (which i'm gonna call luck and partial bullshit if you think minstrels are actively doing this when fighting 8+ other opponents at once), had the pet on defense was attacked and lost the pet before it had a chance to attack (the most likely thing that would happen), or the minstrel isn't doing anything else but managing a pet (which no one does unless they're using mindworms because the resist rate is retarded).

edit: The reason I write this, is because you can't directly ask your pet to start mezzing people. You make it sound like it'll do it everytime, but the majority of time with offensive casting pets if you try to have them cast on things they'll just waddle towards their targets and start smacking them -- if they can even make it to them. No one is doing that kind of management, especially if you're getting trained which happens frequently on this server. You're pet attacking and swapping targets if you find a better one, and regaining control after being stunned or mezzed yourself. As I stated above, the most likely scenario, especially with a red pet mezzing and not breaking it, is if the minstrel themselves were cc'd and lost control of the pet as it was attacking and it happened to cast mez before losing it and not breaking it's own cc -- luck.

You sound pretty bad if you cannot manage to see your pet cast the mezz on people or not, especially since its the best and longest lasting mezz in the game, you could for sure make alot of use of it, which some does.

ZaiQQ wrote:You sound pretty bad if you cannot manage to see your pet cast the mezz on people or not, especially since its the best and longest lasting mezz in the game, you could for sure make alot of use of it, which some does.

Yeah, i'm paying attention to a pet casting rather than demezzing, positioning, breaking tanks speed flying in on speed6 to potentially 1 shot casters with RA styles, or using one of the 4x insta's + flute and instrument/weapon swapping required already of the class, not to mention actually keeping the pet on my side because if you set it and forget it with a red, you'll lose it within the first 5 seconds of a fight. This isn't even including releasing the pet to break your own cc, which minstrels eat every cc known to mankind, or are just flat out trained on inc by zerkers hitting you for >1k damage when you're sporting 1700hp. Healer mocs? Nah ****** it, who needs you to stun, we're busy keeping this pet out of melee range and using /pet attack and when it refuses to cast, we passive it to pull it back to us and try to mez again with it.

The troll in you is strong.

tl;dr

but why are you even defending a bug, just for your info there's atleast 2 minstrels who frequently use the pet to cast a mezz and passive it/send it to another target without breaking the mezz