In the DoL code this can't happen, no. Can't talk for Uthgard obviously.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

barto22 wrote:PvP / RvR of course, that's what he did in his test. So you're saying there can be no crossed wires between the caster and the receiver? Like, you get resisted because it's YOUR fault? Or you get resisted because HE resisted YOU?

Well, his level vs. your level including the spell level used (in RvR/PvP). A resist is always calculated on the casters side.

Lurker wrote:not 5 in a row yet...

but 8 /10 here...



2 * 3 in a row and 1 * 2 in a row very close together

which spell lvl, which target lvl? in a statistical sense your screen shot doesnt help anyway
i think genjiro you should make your test comparison as a sticky and just refere to it any time ppl cry about resists on uthgard.

Yeah I'm (almost) convinced myself. Thx Lurker and Genjiro (amongst others) for the tests and keeping up with the questions and sceptisism.

pweet wrote: in a statistical sense your screen shot doesnt help anyway.

Shhhh!

I appreciate that but I think for others streaks with hits in between (e.g. 8/10) still seem wrong even though they are not, statistically.

Level 45 spell, 50 target. By the way.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have since realised that the screenshot above is misrepresentative. The 'You are diseased' message doesn't show up unless you are not diseased when the spell hits. If the spell hits you and you are currently diseased, don't resist & are not interrupted than there will be no output to the chat at all.

This obviously does not affect the stats produced since I take the chat log from the casters side where there is always a message. Apologies for that, I will edit the message above, pweet, perhaps you can remove the erroneous info from your quote.

I made & Temped an Eld on live over the past few days in my spare time. lvl 50, ml10, cl whatever, Otherworld stuff in 7 hours played lol. Much easier to get into RvR (*COUGH COUGH*)

Leveling Zo Bracer solo nuking OJ + Red mobs I saw resists that seemed in line with Uthgard. In PvP, I've had baseline stun resist twice & 1 debuff resist once. Hardly been a noticable factor in RvR.

Took quite a long time but I finally saw a 5 resist streak on live after 15,000 casts or so...
I was quite unlucky it took that long.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
DAOC Chat Logs Analysis
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Total Attempts: 15451
Total Failures: 2346
Observed Failure Chance: Value: 15.18%.
Streaks of 5 Failures - seen 1 time(s) - probability: one in 13,169 @ Value: 15.00%.
Streaks of 4 Failures - seen 6 time(s) - probability: one in 1,975 @ Value: 15.00%.
Streaks of 3 Failures - seen 31 time(s) - probability: one in 296 @ Value: 15.00%.
Streaks of 2 Failures - seen 256 time(s) - probability: one in 44 @ Value: 15.00%.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Chat Logs: https://paste.ee/p/vqouo

Lurker wrote:Took quite a long time but I finally saw a 5 resist streak on live after 15,000 casts or so...
I was quite unlucky it took that long.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
DAOC Chat Logs Analysis
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Total Attempts: 15451
Total Failures: 2346
Observed Failure Chance: Value: 15.18%.
Streaks of 5 Failures - seen 1 time(s) - probability: one in 13,169 @ Value: 15.00%.
Streaks of 4 Failures - seen 6 time(s) - probability: one in 1,975 @ Value: 15.00%.
Streaks of 3 Failures - seen 31 time(s) - probability: one in 296 @ Value: 15.00%.
Streaks of 2 Failures - seen 256 time(s) - probability: one in 44 @ Value: 15.00%.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Chat Logs: https://paste.ee/p/vqouo

Interesting.

Lurker wrote:

Satiah wrote:Where there any streaks of 5 or more?

Worked out how to use auto hot key so have my shamans running again automatically. Will leave them running through the day / night and post the results back.

Satiah wrote:Both are using the same desease spell. I get why and also the reasoning that it shouldn't matter, but still.

Not sure what you mean by this?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well the problem is you are using a mid caster. We all know mid is working fine. It is the other realms that see the issues

Getting my poisons constantly resisted. Devs not taking that issue in consideration is really hurting the gameplay. I'm asking myself if their RNG system isn't gimped. When I craft hinges, i always get the same qual 4 or 5 times in a row. Maybe resists are working the same way... Becoming paranoïd

Grenouille wrote:Getting my poisons constantly resisted. Devs not taking that issue in consideration is really hurting the gameplay. I'm asking myself if their RNG system isn't gimped. When I craft hinges, i always get the same qual 4 or 5 times in a row. Maybe resists are working the same way... Becoming paranoïd

Hinges (and trinkets in general) really has nothing to do with the RNG system. As you craft trinkets, they stack in your inventory, until you have a full stack of 10. The first hinge will be a random quality, but the next 9 hinges will be the same quality as the first, so it can make a stack of 10 in your inventory.

Just from one look at the results of those log, you can cleary see that streaks of 3-4 very very rarley happen. I get 3 lvl 50 nukes resisted in a row almost on a fight per fight basis.

ZaiQQ wrote:Just from one look at the results of those log, you can cleary see that streaks of 3-4 very very rarley happen. I get 3 lvl 50 nukes resisted in a row almost on a fight per fight basis.

^ this. The fact that someone is feeling the need to test Live in comparison to Uthgard isn't making sense to me anymore. My time spent on Live over the past 2 weeks has proved to me how warped the spell resist system is. The streaks are happening constantly & often. It in no way is comparable to caster play on live.

ZaiQQ wrote:Just from one look at the results of those log, you can cleary see that streaks of 3-4 very very rarley happen. I get 3 lvl 50 nukes resisted in a row almost on a fight per fight basis.

3 nukes resist in a row on a night of active RvR is pretty expected. If you cast > 150 (lvl 45) spells in a night the odds are with you that you will see a three streak resist.

If Just one single person will provide logs (none yet after repetitive requests). I'll do more investigation. 2-3 evening of RvR would be ideal.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk