borog wrote:As i posted on the issue tracker; the maths add up correctly using known formulas for cap damages.

Base damage is calculated as follows: DPS * SPD * 3 * (1 + (SPD - 2) * .03) * (1.1 + (.005 x Spec) ; this equates to 423 unstyled damage for that hammer, rounded down presuming a hammer spec of 56 (39+11+6); if its higher spec, the damage would go up.

also presuming he has 35 quickness in total (which is possible for a troll bers with 0 in temp), his effective swing speed would be 5.6 * (1- (35 - 60) / 500) * (1 - 0) = 5.88

now calculating the style multiplier, presuming Tundra is 1.34; ((1.34 * 56) * 5.88) / 423 = 1.08

Therefore the style damage cap becomes 441 * 1.08 = 457 Style Damage

Add the two together to get cap damage 423 + 457 = 880 Total Damage

Then factor in the crit damage potential of 100% for frenzy, you get 1760 damage.

Bearing in mind that is cap damage, not actual damage and that numbers may vary depending on whether Blue has stuck to known formulas or not.

EDIT* used wrong speed weapon 5.8 instead of 5.6

m0e wrote:@Coldhands, you performed your big hits against caster with shields down and players in drop gear.

Eastsea and Deanora (maybe also Raunzi) had no shield buffs up or were sitting down when you hit them, otherwise you would not get this +800 style damage numbers.
Korzima got hit for 855 (-38) and Draedark for 616 (-12), if you look at those crap resists they for sure were running in drop gear.
You hit Pushkeen the merc for 465 (-198) damage, what seems to be ok with 2hand.
Cyrexi the infil for 512 (-97), she is vulnerable to crush damage so this is some bad damage but maybe you had a str/con debuff...

I start thinking this style is not even worth the 10 points, you could perform similar damage with a Sledgehammer style, but unlike flump you are probably not running a low quick temp and also you are missing Dragonstorm.

aylictal wrote:

m0e wrote:@Coldhands, you performed your big hits against caster with shields down and players in drop gear.

Eastsea and Deanora (maybe also Raunzi) had no shield buffs up or were sitting down when you hit them, otherwise you would not get this +800 style damage numbers.
Korzima got hit for 855 (-38) and Draedark for 616 (-12), if you look at those crap resists they for sure were running in drop gear.
You hit Pushkeen the merc for 465 (-198) damage, what seems to be ok with 2hand.
Cyrexi the infil for 512 (-97), she is vulnerable to crush damage so this is some bad damage but maybe you had a str/con debuff...

I start thinking this style is not even worth the 10 points, you could perform similar damage with a Sledgehammer style, but unlike flump you are probably not running a low quick temp and also you are missing Dragonstorm.

I was in Raunzi's group when this happened (lol I was the next person coldhands hit, it's literally in his screenshot on the last line my name, I watched it happen).

He had full shields and full crush res. He got mezzed from a healer, and then coldhands hit vendo tundra and raunz died.

Mid seems hard :>

aylictal wrote:I was in Raunzi's group when this happened (lol I was the next person coldhands hit, it's literally in his screenshot on the last line my name, I watched it happen).

He had full shields and full crush res. He got mezzed from a healer, and then coldhands hit vendo tundra and raunz died.

Mid seems hard :>

Zob wrote:Savage > Zerker

Satiah wrote:

borog wrote:As i posted on the issue tracker; the maths add up correctly using known formulas for cap damages.

Base damage is calculated as follows: DPS * SPD * 3 * (1 + (SPD - 2) * .03) * (1.1 + (.005 x Spec) ; this equates to 423 unstyled damage for that hammer, rounded down presuming a hammer spec of 56 (39+11+6); if its higher spec, the damage would go up.

also presuming he has 35 quickness in total (which is possible for a troll bers with 0 in temp), his effective swing speed would be 5.6 * (1- (35 - 60) / 500) * (1 - 0) = 5.88

now calculating the style multiplier, presuming Tundra is 1.34; ((1.34 * 56) * 5.88) / 423 = 1.08

Therefore the style damage cap becomes 441 * 1.08 = 457 Style Damage

Add the two together to get cap damage 423 + 457 = 880 Total Damage

Then factor in the crit damage potential of 100% for frenzy, you get 1760 damage.

Bearing in mind that is cap damage, not actual damage and that numbers may vary depending on whether Blue has stuck to known formulas or not.

EDIT* used wrong speed weapon 5.8 instead of 5.6

Ok cap dmg. Can you calculate what the cap would be on a cloth wearer with 28% crush resist (Let's assume no shields, no dex/quick buff, etc)?

Romps wrote:Dex quick on zerker? U must b from one of those realms that can buff their entire group ....without 4 evern bracer

Romps wrote:Dex quick on zerker? U must b from one of those realms that can buff their entire group ....without 4 evern bracer

holsten-knight wrote:up to 550 styled and around 300 unstyled (without crit) with 2 hand hammer on a bard is very much possible, even for me. OK Warrior is higher dmg table, but I am norse (= way less strength), have a crafted (= faster) 2 hand hammer, cap quick, and a haste and a d/q buff most of the time. With all this set for one max single dmg hit I bet a troll warrior could reach 480 unstyled easily.

Would be very stupid as warrior, but possible.