Rosenrot wrote:

Sisay wrote:

Rosenrot wrote:mid / hib easy to pug. ( in class view )To build viable setup

alb hardcore mode in class view.

Depending your classe, you'll never be grouped, for good reasons ( no real utility, or can be easily replaced). The good think in the live server, is that almost all classe can be grouped and are interessting.

I love pvp and rvr, I love playing every role. So the class is not a trouble for me. You won't see me playing necro or thane (sorry for the guys loving theses class )

As I said in the original post, I'll play bard, healer or something that group easily...

But I don't want to waste long time xp (specially with a support) a char and to be stuck at Keep waiting for a group on a realm that everyone play only in fixed group...

it's clever.
But this subject had to be considerated by GM's.
You can't just build a classic server, whitout keeping in mind that by this classical version you'll get 30% of the class in the cabinet. It's idiot.
Some classe couldn't be played in pvp situation as necro, but with some minor change other can. ( grant access to determination to all hybrid p.ex.)

PS: Sorry for my pitifull english

I'm totally agree with you. If I had choice I'll play an hybrid (I always loved to play a pally, but for different reason I didn't make time to try it) or a reaver. I played a reaver on live server at the start of ToA addon and it's was really nice to play reaver...

But I'm realist, I started yesterday a skald finally for being able to solo pve a little if I'm short on time ...

Play on CANT realm .. cause if you cant kill .you have the option to call for more ))))

Sisay wrote:Hi!

I'm an old experimenced player but I'm now a casual player. I'll have a couple of hours 2 times a week to play. My question is not about paper daoc (in fact I know Midgard with core skill on 3 char help to make great pug)

But I want to know on Uthgard, there is a realm that is more easy to make pug? I play on NA Time so it's can make a difference too...

I can play everything so it's not a problem for me, but I'll probably go for a char that is easy to group in pve and rvr (bard, chanter, caby, arsman, skald, healer)

Thank you

depends what you plan to do rly.

if you plan to 8v8 you cant pug on any realm simply cos the player material on this server on all realms is beyond abyssmal.

if you dont care and just wanna join the zerg then it doesnt matter what realm you play. well maybe alb is worst here simply cos they have the smallest zerg atm.

dont listen to the noobs in here telling you midgard is the easiest and bullshit like that. it may be slightly easier to build groups in terms of classes since 3 healer + shaman + rm + whatever tanks you can find but mid pugs die 24/7 to literally anything simply cos the realm is super weak this patch and ppl have no idea how to play tank grps. if you wanna run pugs consistently and actually win some fights i strongly recommend hib as its easy to play/build and also the best to run small groups. bard+druid+hero+chanter+eld if played well can kill ALOT (once you have some ranks to get badly needed power RA´s )

mid or hib.

alb is ridiculously hard to just pick up and play, coupled with the fact that during NA times, the pad is literally empty outside of maybe an armsman and a cabalist who have been spamming the zone for the past 8 hours lfg.

i pugged a 2 theurg group a few nights ago because we were fed up waiting on a slam tank and you know what? we did pretty well, but it's rare with alb setups that you can get away with that sort of behavior.

hib is probably the easiest to be fair though to answer your question.
bard druid druid 5whatever leaves a lot of open slots for anything.

Midgard is just the easiest for it and it's not close. Mid has 500 more level 50s than Alb and Hib ( http://www.incguild.com/herald ) and they aren't littered with useless classes. The only bad classes on Mid are Thane and SM, and nobody plays them. Alb has Necros, Friars, Pallys, Reavers, and Wizards wasting space, and most of Cabs are just Matter farming gobos.

aylictal wrote:mid or hib.

alb is ridiculously hard to just pick up and play, coupled with the fact that during NA times, the pad is literally empty outside of maybe an armsman and a cabalist who have been spamming the zone for the past 8 hours lfg.

i pugged a 2 theurg group a few nights ago because we were fed up waiting on a slam tank and you know what? we did pretty well, but it's rare with alb setups that you can get away with that sort of behavior.

hib is probably the easiest to be fair though to answer your question.
bard druid druid 5whatever leaves a lot of open slots for anything.

not at all. the amount of players that are actually worth inviting on hib is incredibly low and probably the same for other realms. atleast midgard ur just running tanks and can find the most success with that

dont bother alb ... i have a 50 cleric spamming ally chat and discord nearly every day and as good as never get an invite to a pug ... if you are not inside one of the super elite guilds youll find yourself playing solo 90% of time

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aylictal wrote:mid or hib.

alb is ridiculously hard to just pick up and play, coupled with the fact that during NA times, the pad is literally empty outside of maybe an armsman and a cabalist who have been spamming the zone for the past 8 hours lfg.

i pugged a 2 theurg group a few nights ago because we were fed up waiting on a slam tank and you know what? we did pretty well, but it's rare with alb setups that you can get away with that sort of behavior.

hib is probably the easiest to be fair though to answer your question.
bard druid druid 5whatever leaves a lot of open slots for anything.

2 theurgs is actually viable on uthgard(more or less:P) since the pets do more dmg than they actually should. obviously not an optimal setup but alot better than it is supposed to be. tbh tho every realm is narrowed down into like 2-3 setups that you can call viable not just alb. thats simply cos classic daoc is just that awful

even on hib its just 3 support 4 casters hero or 3 support 3 casters hero+offtank/2nd bard and the 2nd setup is significantly weaker in most scenarios as you either lose NS or 2nd demezz or your spec nuker. the 5 natty setup would be viable for 8v8 but forget running that on this zerg server as fights take way too long and you would just get added on all the time.

id still say hib is the easiest to run pugs tho as its the easiest to play since caster trains really are a complete nobrainer and its also very forgiving with 2x GP and personal purge. we have some hilarious footage of killing hib groups that we stack ichored cos they were afk/braindead on inc -> GP -> then stack mezzed them -> GP -> then nearsight them -> like 5 single purges go off. should be kinda impossible to lose at that point with whole group beeing mezz/ns immune but well #uthgard

If you decide to go hib on NA times, both Bard and Druids are needed... anything else and you will only find a group once every 4-5 2 hours sessions.

XiaN^^ wrote:we have some hilarious footage of killing hib groups that we stack ichored cos they were afk/braindead on inc -> GP -> then stack mezzed them -> GP -> then nearsight them -> like 5 single purges go off. should be kinda impossible to lose at that point with whole group beeing mezz/ns immune but well #uthgard

Seen that same crap as alb.

6/8 mezzed on inc, gp fires. See cabalist nearsight firing off on some targets I'm moving up on against (I'm playing a minstrel), and see more purges being fired.

Alb casters on any other server than uthgard are stronger than hib caster setups. On this server, with no NS cure and druids having GP, hib caster setups are actually stronger if coordinated.

if you know they have group purge why aoe mez a group in the first place?

aylictal wrote:

XiaN^^ wrote:we have some hilarious footage of killing hib groups that we stack ichored cos they were afk/braindead on inc -> GP -> then stack mezzed them -> GP -> then nearsight them -> like 5 single purges go off. should be kinda impossible to lose at that point with whole group beeing mezz/ns immune but well #uthgard

Seen that same crap as alb.

6/8 mezzed on inc, gp fires. See cabalist nearsight firing off on some targets I'm moving up on against (I'm playing a minstrel), and see more purges being fired.

Alb casters on any other server than uthgard are stronger than hib caster setups. On this server, with no NS cure and druids having GP, hib caster setups are actually stronger if coordinated.

ya classic is rock papers scissors. alb > mid > hib > alb except for when we´re talking rr6+ then hib > *. as an alb grp you literally cant beat a good hib group cos you can never win NS war and if you run tanks you get shredded cos you dont have heat resist + your minstrel+sorc will still be nearsighted and useless. actual balance came with TOA and new RA´s which is why anyone that is remotely good at this game and knows what he´s talking about hates classic servers with a passion.

concernedcitizen82 wrote:if you know they have group purge why aoe mez a group in the first place?

/facepalm

Copro wrote:If you decide to go hib on NA times, both Bard and Druids are needed... anything else and you will only find a group once every 4-5 2 hours sessions.

As someone who pugs almost every weeknight at PST times. BMs... we need BMs!

concernedcitizen82 wrote:if you know they have group purge why aoe mez a group in the first place?

If you know the other group has healers why deal damage in the first place?