th0msdk wrote:The straight answer is to get better and know how to counter it... Like alot already wrote...

Isavyr wrote:

XiaN^^ wrote:

Toshh wrote:is it allowed? i'd like to have a combat, not a dance. ppl pass through my runemaster's body so i can't quickroot, ppl pass through my war's body so i cannot make any combo because not in sight. can i still solo my shield class or do i have to reroll a savage and become a bug-user?

lmao. its not bug abuse. its called skillful movement and has been part of the game since the first day of beta.

It's not technically a bug, it's just unintended behavior, one which they obviously tried to discourage through the use of misses/style cancels on strafing. Is it part of skill? I guess.

Afirejar wrote:

th0msdk wrote:The straight answer is to get better and know how to counter it... Like alot already wrote...

No, that's the cheap cop-out people use to avoid having to adress or think about the issue. A straight answer would be to explain how to counter it, which so far not a single person in here has done. That's probably related to the straight answer I got when I asked around how to counter it in game, which is that you can't.

Kaosfury wrote:Run through....

the tool used by the unskilled.

run through is the by product of a non-collision detection game.

is it a bug? no..... exploit...not really.

when the developers created the game they was a unintended consequence of non collision.... and the first time the coder saw "Run Through" in action im sure he /face palmed and made a comment along the lines of "i didnt mean for it to get manipulated like that"

run through is ONLY used by those lacking of skill and a need to be good at a game they are not.

can run through be used? sure... are you a absolute douchbag for taking advantage of a unintended by product of a non collision game.

absolutly.... no honor, no respect.

some people have spent there 15 years in DAoC learning the exact mechanic on how to attack every time, then run through you and cause you to not attack.

is there a counter to it,.....yes.... but its a shame some one has to learn to fight people abusing a un intended mechanic.

any one else who says or thinks otherwise is a abuser of the mechanic.


edit... this is not called a strafe bug.... strafing is a different mechanic, and there is a counter mechanic used thay sometimes the game calls you out of strafing and you miss

XiaN^^ wrote:rofl the answer to how to counter it is so blatantly obvious it doesnt need to be explained.

Afirejar wrote:

XiaN^^ wrote:rofl the answer to how to counter it is so blatantly obvious it doesnt need to be explained.

Thanks for proving my point, guy who posts yet another fancy paraphrasing of "stfu noob l2p" instead of just explaining the obvious counter you insist exists.

XiaN^^ wrote:another hint: the answer can be summarized in 2 words. cmon you can do it now.

Afirejar wrote:

XiaN^^ wrote:another hint: the answer can be summarized in 2 words. cmon you can do it now.

Is it "stfu l2p"?

XiaN^^ wrote:both wrong.

lets try like this

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you may buy letters now

Afirejar wrote:

XiaN^^ wrote:both wrong.

lets try like this

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you may buy letters now

Is it "stfu noob"?

Tritri wrote:Let's say : "The developper didn't think this would be an exploitable issue, the wanted /face to allow players to always have their target in sight"
Which I highly doubt, because if so, they would be incompetent, they obviously knew it wouldn't work

bm01 wrote:

Tritri wrote:Let's say : "The developper didn't think this would be an exploitable issue, the wanted /face to allow players to always have their target in sight"
Which I highly doubt, because if so, they would be incompetent, they obviously knew it wouldn't work

You know, this is a pretty old game, people didn't have much experience about PvP oriented MMORPG back then. This is definitely the reason. And they couldn't simply fix it, we're talking about rewriting a pretty big part of the engine here, and even if they had done it it would be like replacing an issue by another one, you cannot simply ignore latency.

bobb_the_slobb wrote:It could easily be fixed. You could just make any target within melee range not require a facing check for spells.

bm01 wrote:

bobb_the_slobb wrote:It could easily be fixed. You could just make any target within melee range not require a facing check for spells.

That's just one part of the problem, it doesn't fix being able to place side or rear melee styles (which doesn't require any strafing), or being able to make your opponent miss their chain by just walking through them. People mentioned collision detection, but that is far from simple (affects gameplay and server performances).