Bubbler wrote:makes you feel that they are the best hib group running right now?
Honestly, there is a distinct lack of good (effetive) groups on hib.
Booted at least has a strategy that they manage to execute pretty well.
Their druids root healers consistently.
Their bards play aggressively.
They try to pull groups out and debuff nuke over-extended targets.
They do all those things well enough, and still all that needs to happen is for a savage to touch a lurikeen for 1 second and they have lost.
I've told people in posts before the server was released and I'm saying it again now, that kind of group setup/strategy is not good on this ruleset.
Hib Hybrid (with 3 casters not 2) becomes _OK_ on 1.65 once the group gets rr7+ and the casters can line up their MOCs to frag people.
Then you're looking at ~20% win against good mid tank groups.
20% win when you RA dump is not something I'd be looking forward to after 2mil RPs of taking it in the ass.
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On that topic, there are A LOT of mid groups out right now as I'm sure everyone knows.
Most of them are quite bad, but are carried by relics etc and the ease of running tanks at low RR.
There's no reason a competent hib group shouldn't be able to farm the crap out of them. We're cheering for you every time you fight some ****** mid group like Larfo.
Is 2 caster worse or better for hib hybrid? was confused the way you phrased it
<Booted> is by far the best Hib group running right now.
Considering that their running a setup that is weak at low RR in addition to all the other disadvantages Hib groups have when facing mids right now (The absurd damage due to relics/keeps and the fact that hib groups usually have to blow more RAs since they generally have more incs) they are doing just fine.
I was happy to see <Rewind> and their Firbolg trank train out the other night.
Closer to a good setup but the lack of bubble on the tanks (specifically static bubble for getting the slam advantage on inc) is going to make life difficult for them.
Still nobody is running the proper hib tank setup right now IMHO. If you didn't do your homework before you rolled here, these might help for fighting mid tankers on this patch level:
Evinac wrote:Ah, so it was ok to be content with pve'ing until yesterday? Or only up to the point when you stepped foot in the frontiers?
Seems like with 2 grps of free rp's out there now, the mids should be rr7-rr8 by the time relic keep side doors might actually be fixed and we may have a legitimate relic raid to attempt to even the playing field.
you sound totally compelled to defeat man, broken and demoralised by mids while other hibs like booted are going out there and actually beating telus now stop taking losses so personally, its just a game.
Evinac wrote:Ah, so it was ok to be content with pve'ing until yesterday? Or only up to the point when you stepped foot in the frontiers?
Seems like with 2 grps of free rp's out there now, the mids should be rr7-rr8 by the time relic keep side doors might actually be fixed and we may have a legitimate relic raid to attempt to even the playing field.
I'm curious, after witnessing how often (and how quickly) your guild has died to mid groups the past few days, over and over, - do you still have the nerve to label other hib groups as "free rps"?
i would say that a good three caster hib setup (+ 1 peeler, 2 druids, 2 bards) shouldn't have any problem against a good mid tank setup, no matter the rank or the relics or whatever. I would even say the opposite of what Top said : 80% winchance for hib and 20% for mid.
I would sum up this patch level like this :
good groups vs good groups : alb > hib > mid bad/medium groups vs bad/medium groups : mid > hib > alb
In this patchlevel the fights will often follow the same patterns because the gameplay is much simplified. I am sure hibs will figure out soon which patterns to reproduce each fight to have more success against the mid groups.
Evinac wrote:Ah, so it was ok to be content with pve'ing until yesterday? Or only up to the point when you stepped foot in the frontiers?
Seems like with 2 grps of free rp's out there now, the mids should be rr7-rr8 by the time relic keep side doors might actually be fixed and we may have a legitimate relic raid to attempt to even the playing field.
I'm curious, after witnessing how often (and how quickly) your guild has died to mid groups the past few days, over and over, - do you still have the nerve to label other hib groups as "free rps"?
Top you were never really that great at this game bud, not sure why you're in here talking strats. You just ride the coattails of others lol. People only group you because you can make templates / pve for them.
Salidry wrote:i would say that a good three caster hib setup (+ 1 peeler, 2 druids, 2 bards) shouldn't have any problem against a good mid tank setup, no matter the rank or the relics or whatever. I would even say the opposite of what Top said : 80% winchance for hib and 20% for mid.
I would sum up this patch level like this :
good groups vs good groups : alb > hib > mid bad/medium groups vs bad/medium groups : mid > hib > alb
In this patchlevel the fights will often follow the same patterns because the gameplay is much simplified. I am sure hibs will figure out soon which patterns to reproduce each fight to have more success against the mid groups.
gary` wrote:Top you were never really that great at this game bud, not sure why you're in here talking strats. You just ride the coattails of others lol. People only group you because you can make templates / pve for them.
Hey man appreciate that you're playing here again, really missed you, but could you keep the cancer and toxicity levels down? daoc is a 15 year old video game, lets relax pal
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Evinac wrote:Ah, so it was ok to be content with pve'ing until yesterday? Or only up to the point when you stepped foot in the frontiers?
Seems like with 2 grps of free rp's out there now, the mids should be rr7-rr8 by the time relic keep side doors might actually be fixed and we may have a legitimate relic raid to attempt to even the playing field.
I'm curious, after witnessing how often (and how quickly) your guild has died to mid groups the past few days, over and over, - do you still have the nerve to label other hib groups as "free rps"?
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