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Postby Rukc » Feb 10, 2017 20:14

Ty for addressing the steamers my vote is to ban all streaming again ty

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Postby Erlexx » Feb 10, 2017 20:15

As a former full time and partnered twitch streamer, 10 minutes is a bit extreme for the purpose, but it is also entirely acceptable. Yes viewer interaction is harmed, but it will not effect whether your stream will be successful or not. The only problem with a rule like this is if some people don't follow it and it is not enforced. Given Uthgards track record, I suspect they'll follow through with enforcement.

If people are going to watch twitch (for a reason other than trying to gain advantage), they aren't going to stop entirely just because they have to wait to get a question answered directly by the streamer. You can have other viewers answer for you in chat on repeat questions (which almost every question is after the first 10 minutes), and you can BE entertaining with a delay. You yourself can also answer questions in chat if you want without delay if its important you respond quickly for whatever reason.
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Postby Cirdan » Feb 10, 2017 20:15

Hoemurr wrote:That being said, it seems this rule is to protect people from their own ignorance.


Unfortunately streaming also gives out intel on players who have not chosen to stream. If a group is streaming with little to no delay, anyone they run into sight of has now had their location/size revealed, which is not fair to those players.

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Postby Erlexx » Feb 10, 2017 20:17

Cirdan wrote:
Hoemurr wrote:That being said, it seems this rule is to protect people from their own ignorance.


Unfortunately it also gives out intel on players who have not chosen to stream. If a group is streaming with little to no delay anyone they run into sight of has now had their location/size revealed, which is not fair to those players.


I streamed ESO for 2 years, if you aren't streaming with a delay, you'll probably regret it eventually anyway. You may want other groups to find you, but you probably wont enjoy the 12 scouts/hunters/minstrels/skalds/smallmans/etc that decide to help out the first group to come your way.
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Postby Kaosfury » Feb 10, 2017 20:48

Jesus now we are going to have a five-page conversation about streaming. If you don't understand how your stream needs to be 10 minutes 15 minutes or 20 minutes then you just don't understand. you won't understand, because you lack the mental capacity to understand.

Yes well done to the staff.

I also appreciate your statement about the population all these doomsayers act like it's 20 to 1 mid so they can have a reason to justify their failures in your lack of rvr.

The staff just told us it's pretty pretty close so what's hibbies excuse now?

Less sitting on the porch crying about respects more defense and offense of keeps please how about we play the game the way it's supposed to be played.

Are you guys the same people that are going to blow your load on inc and then sit at the keep for 30 minutes?

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Postby pweet » Feb 10, 2017 20:52

Good news, keep it up.

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Postby Hoemurr » Feb 10, 2017 20:57

Erlexx wrote:
Cirdan wrote:
Hoemurr wrote:That being said, it seems this rule is to protect people from their own ignorance.


Unfortunately it also gives out intel on players who have not chosen to stream. If a group is streaming with little to no delay anyone they run into sight of has now had their location/size revealed, which is not fair to those players.


I streamed ESO for 2 years, if you aren't streaming with a delay, you'll probably regret it eventually anyway. You may want other groups to find you, but you probably wont enjoy the 12 scouts/hunters/minstrels/skalds/smallmans/etc that decide to help out the first group to come your way.


That's kind of my point. Streaming LIVE is only going to hurt your own realm, therefore hurting you. This rule is to protect someone (and their realm) from themselves.

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Postby CowwoC » Feb 10, 2017 21:00

Hoemurr wrote:Great job staff! I've been loving me some Uthgard since relaunch.

danteafk wrote:10 min delay? This kills any viewer interaction.

Comon, 3min is enough.


I personally don't care about the delay, one way or another, since I don't stream or watch streams. I'd much rather be in game playing for myself, then watch someone else play. That being said, it seems this rule is to protect people from their own ignorance. I mean, if your going after keeps to take back DF, or going after relics, or just trying to get a jump on another group of RvR participants, why would you want to put this up on the internet, so the whole world can see what you're doing as you're doing it?


If you don't watch or stream and don't even know the intention of streaming, then why should someone care what you have to say about it? It doesn't affect you? Cool - now please move on.

10 min is not that hard, but 5 min would be fair enough - imho.
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Postby jeff_daoj » Feb 10, 2017 21:08

Thanks for the update Uthgard staff. Keep up the good work
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Postby Evinac » Feb 10, 2017 21:09

I know this is mostly a "hooray dragons r up!" thread, but since rvr balance was brought up, are we ever going to hear anything about the last relic that changed hands? I get that any disciplinary actions will not be revealed, but would like to know if picking up the relic from the floor below is allowed and will not be punished in the future.

And i hate to even aknowledge the post... but @Kaosfury you opened df how many times exactly?
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Postby Abydos » Feb 10, 2017 21:17

We have already addressed it many times.

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Postby ssdff » Feb 10, 2017 21:33

Trishin wrote:Streamer update:
We are aware that a lot of you are streaming DAoC and Uthgard, which is amazing to see, however we want to remind our streamers that it is against our rules to share information to other realms. This means that we would like all streamers to add a 10 minute delay to their stream if they plan to RvR. If they plan to participate in a relic raid, we recommend not to stream this event until enemies have spotted you in RvR (still with a 10 minute delay). We will soon update our rules to reflect this, but we wanted to give you a heads up for what is about to change.


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Postby Evinac » Feb 10, 2017 21:39

Abydos wrote:We have already addressed it many times.


I seem to have missed it then, possible to provide a link? Or are you referring to the locked threads where it is stated that the situation will be investigated?
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Postby Blajjan » Feb 10, 2017 21:40

I stream almost all the time when I play , and i usually have 10 min delay on rvr , but if i happened to forget timer if i switch from pve to rvr , is that ban ?

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Postby ssdff » Feb 10, 2017 21:45

Blajjan wrote:I stream almost all the time when I play , and i usually have 10 min delay on rvr , but if i happened to forget timer if i switch from pve to rvr , is that ban ?


This is my concern as well and why I will no longer be streaming. What if DF changes hands and RVR happens before I have a chance to change stream settings.

The staff has put forwards a seemingly 0 tolerance policy on broken rules. Doesn't seem worth while to promote the game/server via streaming if I have to risk a 0 tolerance insta ban to do so. my humble opinion anyway.
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